the very first line cracked me up.

'usually it's hard to catch slick politicians in a lie'.

no, it's not! it's easy. if/when their lips move, they're lying.

It remains sad to see that, 2 years after this law was passed, with all the information available at one's fingertips, as many times as law has been discussed here, people are still so frankly, completely ignorant of how it works.

Are the exchanges up yet?

Hello? Anybody?

Anybody whining here about price have any remote idea whatsoever of what is controlling their insurance companies premium price right now? And how that will change? And what importance the exchanges will play in that?

Yeah. Though so. Bitching for the hell of it is easy. Becoming educated take responsibility and is hard - and god forbid reality goes against anybody's preconceived notion of the lies they were told during an August three years ago.

Once again, for those blaming the wrong people for their current insurance rate:

Here is the website http://www.healthcare.gov/law/index.html

If you think everything from the government is a lying, giant conspiracy, yeah, you're probably better off just reading World Net Daily for your "news", and assembling guns and food for the end of the world. I can probably hook you up with a survivalist or two out west if you need it for the Rapture, or Armageddon, or The Second Coming Of Obama.

If you do not believe that, try reading the "timeline".

Dear Geeker...Please tie me up as I am trying soooo hard not to even look down here but stupidly decided to click on this one thread.

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First off (Riot,not Geekie)... smug enough?

Really who are you to come off so condescending? It's very Obamaesque acting haughty and having the probable soiled kitty litter expression like he does half the time.

Second, this is ****ing hilarious. To make your point are using a website run by Health and Human Services? You mean were right back to that idiot Sebelius who, if this were another administration, would be canned for her extemporaneous remarks?

There's a reason for the Hatch Act.

Give me a break.

Have a nice day starting 20 thousand threads about important issues like Granny booing Ryan, etc. Did you lose a bet or something cause I do not have so little respect for you that I assume you have nothing better to do (that was unclear. I'm sure you have better things to be doing is what I'm saying).

Honestly it's starting to seem like some people are just out and out brainwashed.

I don't get it.

Oh and I wasn't bitching. There is nothing I can do.

One of my kids was watching Fast Five the other evening and I came in right at the part where the richest man in Brazil (and the most corrupt) is explaining to a group why people in Brazil speak Portuguease. He tells them the Spaniards came with weapons and were violent but the Portuguese? They came with gifts. Did the masses want to continue to receive the items that they had never seen before and wanted and were given or did they want to rise up against the Spaniards?

So yeah I'm not bitching. Mr. Obama can give out all the food stamps he wants. The middle class can continue to get ****ed up the ass. We can be bullied, told what to eat, what insurance to have, have the government in parts of our lives that are a little too Big Brother for my liking but whatever.

Change lol.

All people like me can do is hope to God that if Romney is elected he will have more success than this clown has and if not that who(m)ever is elected in four years can begin to fix things.

You go and enjoy living in Delusionland. Have fun.

Oh and yeah I know, I know... now I'm a racist, right?

Whatever. This is a waste of time.

Thank you for your thoughtful post on the actual content of the Affordable Care Act. And your factual refutation as false, using different measurements, the figures posted by the Congressional Budget Office, The Kaiser Foundation, and the City of Atlanta.

However, seeing you didn't do that, we'll go with this and just answer you back in your own style:

Just following your expert lead. You should stick to calling the First Lady a "Nazi Buffoon" - that puts your self-rightous pearl clutching here over "condescending" in focus. And puts your statement that, "Honestly it's starting to seem like some people are just out and out brainwashed." into the pointing-fingers-at-the-hypocrite laughable category.

In other words, we are not laughing with you, we are laughing at you, dear.

As for the deliberate denial of facts and repetition of factual falsehoods (versus opinion) ... well, those that do that here - day after day, year after year - shouldn't whine when their repeated and unending factual mendacity is pointed out.

That behaviour gets very tiresome for the rest of us, who want to debate actual issues here - not imaginary fantasies and feeding their ridiculous Obama Derangement Syndrome of hate. Take it back to WND and The Blaze. Of course, if you really believe "Obama hands out food stamps", those are probably too intelligent of a website for you.