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RolloTomasi 04-04-2012 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 850568)
why not just keep Bode for the SA Derby, or if he wanted a cupcake spot he could of went to Hawthorne
Seems like Ahmed Zayat has a hand in all this. He's throwing everything to the fan and hoping something sticks. The hopeless thing he ran in the Florida Derby betrayed his mindset.

Danzig 04-04-2012 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 850572)
He doesn't have a horse in the Wood, Lexington, or Illinois Derby. He also passed on the Louisiana and Florida Derbies.


I noted that his horses in the SA Derby were second-stringers. Seattleallstar had a valid reason to question why Baffert would put his two top candidates in the same race.


No, he didn't.


But you said there weren't a lot of options, yet there are. And Baffert isn't running out of options, he's simply not utilizing the other spots for some reason, which is kind of odd, considering he's started and had previous success in the Wood, Louisiana Derby, and Lexington.
i know others remarked on him not running in louisiana. i do find that odd since he used to go there rather often. some of the other places as well...i'm sure he's got a reason for limiting himself.

cakes44 04-04-2012 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 850568)
why not just keep Bode for the SA Derby, or if he wanted a cupcake spot he could of went to Hawthorne
Maybe now would be a good time to revisit the ALL-TIME post by Satan's Twin on what would lure and/or keep someone from Hawthorne.

goodcopy 04-04-2012 11:20 PM
Just Win Baby!
 
Maybe he is trying to win the Arkansan derby and get them both eligible for the Kentucky Derby:zz::eek:

MaTH716 04-05-2012 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 850650)
Maybe now would be a good time to revisit the ALL-TIME post by Satan's Twin on what would lure and/or keep someone from Hawthorne.
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...6&postcount=40

Clip-Clop 04-05-2012 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 850675)
Holy crap that's funny.

pointman 04-05-2012 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 850602)
i know others remarked on him not running in louisiana. i do find that odd since he used to go there rather often. some of the other places as well...i'm sure he's got a reason for limiting himself.
Are you forgeting about crossing the Rockies? Very difficult for a horse to do.

pointman 04-05-2012 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 850400)
Secret Circle does not need the win, or the earnings. His jockey could hold him back a bit in the lane, allowing Bodemeister to secure the win or place(that place money at least puts him on the bubble, that's more than the S.A. Derby's purse would).

Baffert instructs the jocks, despite the horses' separate owners, to plan accordingly, does he not?
While I agree that the move is odd, the last time I checked holding a horse back is called race fixing.

Though, having said that, Herve Fillion was an expert at this.

Danzig 04-05-2012 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 850712)
Are you forgeting about crossing the Rockies? Very difficult for a horse to do.
he's crossing them to get to oaklawn.

i just don't understand why some posters think it odd he'd have a multiple entry at oaklawn, when he has multiple entries at santa anita for the derby. i think in the norfolk every year he has more than one entrant. it happens, so what?

Mike 04-15-2012 12:56 PM
Ahmed Zayat, the owner of Bodemeister, on Sunday said he would speak to Baffert first before naming a rider for the Derby. Mike Smith rode Bodemeister for the first time Saturday, a choice made by Baffert, who had Rafael Bejarano stick with Secret Circle. Bejarano had also been riding Bodemeister.

northeastbound123 04-15-2012 01:53 PM
hearing smith is going to stay on Bode

pointman 04-15-2012 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by northeastbound123 (Post 852798)
hearing smith is going to stay on Bode
It is the shocker of the day. Baffert has confirmed on twitter Smith riding Bode in Derby.

Danzig 04-15-2012 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 852810)
It is the shocker of the day. Baffert has confirmed on twitter Smith riding Bode in Derby.
i don't find it shocking. when i read the other day that smith 'intended' to ride daddy nose best in the derby, i just laughed a little to myself.

pointman 04-15-2012 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 852812)
i don't find it shocking. when i read the other day that smith 'intended' to ride daddy nose best in the derby, i just laughed a little to myself.
I thought my sarcasm was apparent without an emoticon. Sorry.

Danzig 04-15-2012 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 852815)
I thought my sarcasm was apparent without an emoticon. Sorry.
:o

sorry.

asudevil 04-15-2012 04:30 PM
Go Go on DNB

v j stauffer 04-15-2012 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 852812)
i don't find it shocking. when i read the other day that smith 'intended' to ride daddy nose best in the derby, i just laughed a little to myself.
I had a couple times I "intended" to ride one and didn't.

Cost me $200 several times. $500 once.:mad:

RolloTomasi 04-15-2012 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 852982)
I had a couple times I "intended" to ride one and didn't.
Bet those horses breathed a huge sigh of relief.

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Cost me $200 several times. $500 once.:mad:
How much would have it cost the horse if you were lowered onto its back?

Talk about checks your body can't cash...

asudevil 04-15-2012 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 852982)
I had a couple times I "intended" to ride one and didn't.

Cost me $200 several times. $500 once.:mad:
Bunny Ranch??

Indian Charlie 04-15-2012 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 852984)
Bet those horses breathed a huge sigh of relief.


How much would have it cost the horse if you were lowered onto its back?

Talk about checks your body can't cash...
Yeah man.

He's got the looks of Rosie, the weight of Roseanne and the athleticism of Kathy Bates.


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