Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 839851)

Preliminary 94 Beyer for Drill.

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 839827)

Thanks, brah.


So Arkansas is irrelevant now, too?

By the way, who said anything about having to select the winner of the Kentucky Derby? You said that CA horses were irrelevant with regards to the Derby Trail. It was an ignorant line.


Whatever. You laugh at my alleged method of betting the Derby, and yet, here you are in fucl<ing February writing off horses from about 4 or 5 signficant graded stakes (3 of which haven't even been run yet) just because CA racing on a whole is in the dumps. Only a complete dolt would employ that strategy. Call it Dead-brain money on Derby Day. The San Vicente isn't the only 3yo race in CA.

You just have a hard-on for CA racing. I get it, brah. But don't be confused. Love yourself.


Secret Circle trains at Santa Anita, Copernicus. The only reason he's at Oaklawn is because his trainer is so inundated with well-meant 3yos that he has to ship them around. So long as operations like Baffert's call CA home, it will always be relevant on the Derby Trail.

Now go ahead, keep backpedaling and spewing about "product" and Jon White and whatever else you think you need to pile on to cover up your silly initial statement.

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 839880)

You needed to post twice?

Sham= 5 Starters
Lewis =8 Starters (Adequate)

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 839880)

You needed to post twice?

Sham= 5 Starters
Lewis =8 Starters (Adequate)

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 839881)

And as far as my silly initial post, yeah I got carried away dismissing the Cali product based upon the Sh*it preps they have given us this year... My Bad.

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 840053)

Why don't you simply clarify what you mean instead of the jackass macho head games? A couple of the CA Derby preps were apparently Sh!t because they had small fields. I guess this means they were unbettable (never mind that Out Of Bounds paid out at 10-1 and Drill nearly 4-1).

However, they certainly were relevant and will continue to be so, because they will invariably feature top class prospects.


Giacomo was what, 6 years ago? Talk about a fair weather fan. And, once again, I was not "defending the product". I was simply pointing out all the CA-based horses in the last decade (I know, I know, that's ancient history) that were, in fact, "relevant" on the Derby trail.


I produced the list quickly because I follow horse racing. Do you?

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 840072)

As far as being a fan, I am a consumer of the markets put forward by tracks and what I've been getting from Santa Anita is not playable. And by the
way I post my plays on the selection thread for all to see.. I don't stay in the safety of the Paddock pontificating.