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Cannon Shell 12-14-2011 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 825106)
Yeah cause they are the cause of all our problems. How thrilled are you when you pay over three dollars a gallon for gas while oil companies post record profits?
Who said they are the casue of all our problems but it is pretty maddening when the tolls were raised $4 per trip and you have people taking money and gardening making 90k a year. Makes you wonder what else is money being blown on. Making change in a toll booth or cutting the lawn isnt worth 90k a year of taxpayers (and bridge/tunnel drivers) money.

Cannon Shell 12-14-2011 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825112)
You mean all one of them? The one that earned it by working 60 hours a week?

Yeah. It's all his fault. He's out to get you.
You think it is kosher that people who make change are making 80-100k a year of tax payer money? This after a $4 per trip toll increase?

Cannon Shell 12-14-2011 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 825118)
He's absolutely demonic, got horns and stuff! Now the CEO of your local HMO who makes over 10 million a year, he's a good guy...always smiles when he tells you your mother's lifesaving treatment is too expensive! But of course, he's a "job creator"....keeps those funeral home employees in work.
One has nothing to do with another witch boy

Riot 12-14-2011 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825136)
You think it is kosher that people who make change are making 80-100k a year of tax payer money? This after a $4 per trip toll increase?
You mean the 24 out of 147 who earned that working 60 hours a week?

Yeah, it's all their fault, horse boy.

Cannon Shell 12-14-2011 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825132)
The model where you promised that benefit to people, if they would work a lifetime for you and the public sector, and now you have to pay them what you've promised them over the past decades.

Gee. It's not like this is any surprise. Considering the city itself negotiated and agree to pay these benefits.

Duh.
Union workers dont work a "lifetime" for anyone. They retire to nice pensions which the rest of us pay for.

The old "city negotiated this deal" excuse. Because we all know that unions have never influenced elections in NYC. We all know that the unions would never strike or make out of touch demands to those same politicians that they put in place. We all know that union leaders know that it doesnt matter how badly they screw the city with these deals that the state or feds will ride to the rescue. Is Hazel Dukes your idol?

Riot 12-14-2011 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825147)
Union workers dont work a "lifetime" for anyone. They retire to nice pensions which the rest of us pay for.

The old "city negotiated this deal" excuse. Because we all know that unions have never influenced elections in NYC. We all know that the unions would never strike or make out of touch demands to those same politicians that they put in place. We all know that union leaders know that it doesnt matter how badly they screw the city with these deals that the state or feds will ride to the rescue. Is Hazel Dukes your idol?
Too bad the toll increases don't appear to have anything to do with the unions.

Cannon Shell 12-14-2011 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825145)
You mean the 24 out of 147 who earned that working 60 hours a week?

Yeah, it's all their fault, horse boy.
Who is blaming anyone for anything except it is insane that they raised tolls $4 a trip and people who make change are making 80-100k a year? So it is ok that people who make change are making more money than teachers or police men or fireman? You know people who have jobs that matter.

Cannon Shell 12-14-2011 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825148)
Too bad the toll increases don't appear to have anything to do with the unions.
Everything in state and local govt in NY has something to do with unions. To deny this is to deny all logic.

pointman 12-14-2011 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825148)
Too bad the toll increases don't appear to have anything to do with the unions.
Really? The increases that were put in place to close the Port Authority's budget which the Port Authority could not balance in large part because of the salaries and benefits negotiated by the unions?

Not to mention that the job is obsolete and every toll collector could be eliminated and replaced by machines at a much cheaper cost except that the union contracts protect unneccessary jobs?

Riot 12-14-2011 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825150)
Everything in state and local govt in NY has something to do with unions. To deny this is to deny all logic.
Or it means I read the news, and you jump to the conclusion that it's all the unions fault, all the time.

Good luck with that perpetual victim thing :(

pointman 12-14-2011 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825132)
The model where you promised that benefit to people, if they would work a lifetime for you and the public sector, and now you have to pay them what you've promised them over the past decades.

Gee. It's not like this is any surprise. Considering the city itself negotiated and agree to pay these benefits.

Duh.
The model negotiated by the same union officials who lined the same corrupt politicians pockets that they negotiated these ridiculous contracts with?

Riot 12-14-2011 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman (Post 825151)
Really? The increases that were put in place to close the Port Authority's budget which the Port Authority could not balance in large part because of the salaries and benefits negotiated by the unions?

Not to mention that the job is obsolete and every toll collector could be eliminated and replaced by machines at a much cheaper cost except that the union contracts protect unneccessary jobs?
No. The toll increases that are on hold because it's illegal to use road taxes for infrastructure at ground zero.

But UNIONS SUCK! IT'S ALL THEIR FAULT! NOBODY ELSE'S! How DARE public workers get a pension! And overtime! It's an outrage!

Cannon Shell 12-14-2011 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825152)
Or it means I read the news, and you jump to the conclusion that it's all the unions fault, all the time.

Good luck with that perpetual victim thing :(
You read the news? So you arent smart enough to understand that pension funds are the main culprit in the future bankruptcy of NYC? I guess the unions have nothing to do with that right? Just look at NYC OTB to see what the power of unions unchecked can do.

Cannon Shell 12-14-2011 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825154)
No. The toll increases that are on hold because it's illegal to use road taxes for infrastructure at ground zero.

But UNIONS SUCK! IT'S ALL THEIR FAULT! NOBODY ELSE'S! How DARE public workers get a pension! And overtime! It's an outrage!
THE TOLLS ARE ALREADY OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!
$20 round trip across the GW bridge
$26 across the Verazano

And this is with the vast majority of people using EZ pass (no toll taker)

Riot 12-14-2011 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825159)
THE TOLLS ARE ALREADY OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!
$20 round trip across the GW bridge
$26 across the Verazano

And this is with the vast majority of people using EZ pass (no toll taker)
This is CLEARLY the fault of the EVIL UNIONS!

Cannon Shell 12-14-2011 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 825160)
This is CLEARLY the fault of the EVIL UNIONS!
At least the other guy thinks he is a witch....

somerfrost 12-14-2011 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825138)
One has nothing to do with another witch boy
I'm so proud of you, you actually got it right....usually the religious bigots call me warlock boy.

somerfrost 12-14-2011 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 825162)
At least the other guy thinks he is a witch....
Yeah, I think so...the same way you think you are a Christian (or whatever).

MaTH716 12-14-2011 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 824979)
Point made....next ignorant attempt to blame the middle class for the country's mess....Really folks, if you are gonna go up against Riot, you need at least some facts...
Bestest post evah....................
:rolleyes:

:zz:

:wf

pointman 12-14-2011 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 825199)
Bestest post evah....................
:rolleyes:

:zz:

:wf
:tro:


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