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hockey2315 10-25-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 812954)
And you've got a good in with Team Valor now too!

Haha yup. . .

blackthroatedwind 10-25-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 812945)
Juvenile Fillies Turf adds some names besides Flay's Dear Lavinia:

Hard Not to Like (G. Cox)
Karlovy Vary (Arnold)
My Gi Gi (Koriner)
Questing (Gosden) -- Juvenile Fillies*
Stopshoppingmaria (Pletcher) -- Juvenile Fillies*

Just the idea that they are even considering running Stopshoppingmaria in the turf makes me feel Todd has zero confidence in her.

Dahoss 10-25-2011 04:45 PM

I know I'm really reaching, but how about Champagne D'oro in the Filly and Mare Sprint? The Princess Rooney was an ambitious spot off the break and she actually ran pretty well there considering she was pretty close to a pace that totally collapsed, it was her first race in 6 months and she was in tight turning for home.

In the Honorable Miss she was up against it on a drying out track that seemed to favor inside speed. Then she was stretched out (not really sure why) for her last two. At Monmouth she was reserved off the lead wide and seemed to just sort of give up. But last time she did some running, on the engine the entire way and although the race was farther than she wants to go, she ran deceptively well I think. Now she shortens up to what is probably her best distance and might be rounding back into her best form.

Obviously if Turbulent Descent shows up with her "A" game they are all likely running for 2nd, but do you really want a short price on her? I think all of the gaps (as planned as they may be) are a concern. Tanda seems interesting also considering the ride she got in her lone dirt start.

Kasept 10-25-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 812960)
Just the idea that they are even considering running Stopshoppingmaria in the turf makes me feel Todd has zero confidence in her.

Not just considering.. JF Turf is her preference.

freddymo 10-25-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 813009)
Not just considering.. JF Turf is her preference.

Who is "her" the filly? What does she know she is a horse. She is 1100 lbs with the brain as large as a cell phone

Travis Stone 10-25-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 812960)
Just the idea that they are even considering running Stopshoppingmaria in the turf makes me feel Todd has zero confidence in her.

You don't hear Pletcher talk about his stock like this too often...

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“We’ll work her over the grass this weekend and then make a decision as to which race she’ll run in,” Pletcher said. “She’s by More Than Ready, and More Than Readys have been very successful on the grass. We felt her race in the Frizette was not quite as good as we’d expected, and although she worked well on Sunday, she didn’t gallop out as strongly as she has before. By pre-entering her in both races, it puts us in a position to have as many options as possible.”
http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup...hurchill-downs

RolloTomasi 10-25-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 813032)
You don't hear Pletcher talk about his stock like this too often...

Good stuff. Maybe she's having a reaction to lasix. A surface switch should help.

The KHRC and BC committee don't need to worry about another Life At Ten incident. I think he's learned his lesson. He realizes now he should have run Life At Ten in the Filly and Mare Turf.

Indian Charlie 10-25-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 813032)
You don't hear Pletcher talk about his stock like this too often...



http://www.drf.com/news/breeders-cup...hurchill-downs

Lately, he seems a bit more forthcoming and honest when he's been interviewed about his stock.

The other day I read him say something about not being happy with a workout for one of his 2yos, for instance.

Mawhip 10-25-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 813008)
I know I'm really reaching, but how about Champagne D'oro in the Filly and Mare Sprint? The Princess Rooney was an ambitious spot off the break and she actually ran pretty well there considering she was pretty close to a pace that totally collapsed, it was her first race in 6 months and she was in tight turning for home.

In the Honorable Miss she was up against it on a drying out track that seemed to favor inside speed. Then she was stretched out (not really sure why) for her last two. At Monmouth she was reserved off the lead wide and seemed to just sort of give up. But last time she did some running, on the engine the entire way and although the race was farther than she wants to go, she ran deceptively well I think. Now she shortens up to what is probably her best distance and might be rounding back into her best form.

Obviously if Turbulent Descent shows up with her "A" game they are all likely running for 2nd, but do you really want a short price on her? I think all of the gaps (as planned as they may be) are a concern. Tanda seems interesting also considering the ride she got in her lone dirt start.

Looking like the early candidate for worst Breeder's Cup opinion.

Mawhip 10-25-2011 09:59 PM

I just looked at her PP's and I was wrong. Certainly not the worst opinion. Didn't realize how bad this field is other than Turbulent Decent who is hard to trust like you said.

blackthroatedwind 10-25-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mawhip (Post 813055)
Looking like the early candidate for worst Breeder's Cup opinion.

I thought it was kind of interesting.

Believe me, you will have far worse ones.

Dahoss 10-25-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mawhip (Post 813055)
Looking like the early candidate for worst Breeder's Cup opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc&ob=av3e

Indian Charlie 10-25-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 813061)

Worst voice from a female singer evah!

Ugh.

Sounds like what I'd imagine a goat taking it in the rear from a grizzly bear would be.

RockHardTen1985 10-27-2011 02:05 PM

Hunt Crossing is out of Juvy sprint. Knee injury.

jms62 10-28-2011 03:26 PM

In FM Sprint Golden Mystery 2/4 at the distance and trained by the miracle worker Juan Carlos Guerrero for which she is 2/2 with. I will pay up to have her on my ticket and not kick myself in the ass when Juan Carlos works his magic.

RockHardTen1985 10-28-2011 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 813558)
In FM Sprint Golden Mystery 2/4 at the distance and trained by the miracle worker Juan Carlos Guerrero for which she is 2/2 with. I will pay up to have her on my ticket and not kick myself in the ass when Juan Carlos works his magic.

They all have a shot in that race. Well maybe not all of them, Turbulent Descent is a total toss for me.

RockHardTen1985 10-29-2011 10:10 AM

The late pick 3 Friday ending with the Ladies Classic, is there a price anywhere?

Alan07 10-29-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 813647)
The late pick 3 Friday ending with the Ladies Classic, is there a price anywhere?

is there any the entire p6 sequence? I don't see one.

RockHardTen1985 10-29-2011 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan07 (Post 813649)
is there any the entire p6 sequence? I don't see one.

Maybe Sum of the Parts?

RockHardTen1985 10-29-2011 02:07 PM

Anyone have any info on the Euro's in the Juvy Fillies Turf?


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