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JJP 09-05-2006 12:21 PM

I'm shocked Leparoux is going back to Turfway instead of Belmont. Maybe its the fear of business drop off after he loses the bug.

ateamstupid 09-05-2006 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Ashkal isnt gonna be a contender in either grass race, hes a cut below. So is balletto. Songster is way off form also. I only see Henny Hughes in the sprint and the Classic horses as their hopes from the US contingent. I don't know enough about what they have overseas to comment intelligently about them.

I disagree about Balletto.. She ran a huge race behind Fleet Indian, who got away with absolute murder on the front end.. Two turns and the long stretch at CD should help her out a lot provided she actually gets some pace in front of her.

Also, who are the great milers Ashkal Way has to fear? I'm seriously wondering, because this year's BCM, usually one of the best races of BC day, appears to be coming up light.

eurobounce 09-05-2006 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Ashkal isnt gonna be a contender in either grass race, hes a cut below. So is balletto. Songster is way off form also. I only see Henny Hughes in the sprint and the Classic horses as their hopes from the US contingent. I don't know enough about what they have overseas to comment intelligently about them.

I sort of like Balleto. I agree with Songster and Ashkal Way. But I think Balleto is going to show some improvement next time out. She should get a hot pace to chase and that will play into her running style. Ashkal Way is a cut below, and that division is loaded.

eurobounce 09-05-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I disagree about Balletto.. She ran a huge race behind Fleet Indian, who got away with absolute murder on the front end.. Two turns and the long stretch at CD should help her out a lot provided she actually gets some pace in front of her.

Also, who are the great milers Ashkal Way has to fear? I'm seriously wondering, because this year's BCM, usually one of the best races of BC day, appears to be coming up light.

Gorella and Aragorn are two that come to mind.

ateamstupid 09-05-2006 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Gorella and Aragorn are two that come to mind.

Yeah, Aragorn seems like a nice one, but who's to say Gorella won't go to the F&M Turf?

And besides those two, I can't think of any monsters.. Whereas last year, the BCM field was STACKED with superstars.

Gander 09-05-2006 01:38 PM

Artie Schiller is returning to the races in the coming weeks. Obviously he needs to run well off his last race, but it isnt a stretch that he does and he gets a chance at defending his title in the mile.

eurobounce 09-05-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yeah, Aragorn seems like a nice one, but who's to say Gorella won't go to the F&M Turf?

And besides those two, I can't think of any monsters.. Whereas last year, the BCM field was STACKED with superstars.

Be interesting to see where Gorella goes. And last year was stacked. Not sure what Europeans there are, but I would love to see Gorella against the boys one last time.

Gander 09-05-2006 04:03 PM

Next weekend we get two grade 1's on saturday.

Correction to the original post by Nostradamus, there are 3 grade 1's on Saturday. The Man o War, Garden City Breeders Cup and the Ghazelle. What an unbelievably stocked meet. Every weekend is super.

Betsy 09-05-2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
If you're a horse racing fan within 50 miles of Belmont, how can you NOT go watch that?

I think 'dini stomps Invasor out, but I must admit Invasor does scare me.

I will be there in the flesh to see this guy; it would be worth the price of admission (such as it is at $2.00) to merely see Bernardini in person (for me, anyway). I really do think Bernardini is better than Invasor, but Invasor is the toughest, most talented horse he's faced and he'd better have his running shoes on.

Danzig 09-05-2006 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yeah, Aragorn seems like a nice one, but who's to say Gorella won't go to the F&M Turf?

And besides those two, I can't think of any monsters.. Whereas last year, the BCM field was STACKED with superstars.

ouija board is supposed to be there for the f+m turf...definitely a superstar, but as for the mile....aragorn will most likely be my pick. he's definitely fun to watch!



discreet cat is not pointed to the bcc at this point. of course we know things could change, but as of now they have no intention of running him there.

Kasept 09-05-2006 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Also, who are the great milers Ashkal Way has to fear? I'm seriously wondering, because this year's BCM, usually one of the best races of BC day, appears to be coming up light.

O-E-Y,

Would think they have to fear Miesque's Approval... a 'lil bit..

SB

oracle80 09-05-2006 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
O-E-Y,

Would think they have to fear Miesque's Approval... a 'lil bit..

SB

Funny how he slips through the cracks of discussions.
To be honest Steve, I mysefl had forgotten about him.

Gander 09-05-2006 08:34 PM

Hard to forget the horse that beat Jerry Bailey for the final time! Doh!
He was in razor sharp form earlier this year.

Crown@club 09-06-2006 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
O-E-Y,

Would think they have to fear Miesque's Approval... a 'lil bit..

SB

Shhh! Quiet! LOL!

Bold Reasoning 09-06-2006 01:57 PM

I have read that Discreet Cat is not running in the Breeders' Cup Classic this year; Bernardini is the representative for the head of the Maktoum family. If Bernardini falters somehow, I suppose things could change. Certainly I hope that is not the case. I believe Bernardini will beat Invasor in the Jockey Club Gold Cup. Only bad luck will yield another result.


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