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Calzone Lord 02-03-2012 10:39 PM

Here's Fly Down's chart:

http://www.frusiya.com/english/racer...eNo=7&PartNo=1

The race went in 2:29.13


A race at the same exact distance on the card restricted to Suadi breds won by a horse named Badr Alkawakib went in 2:30.48

http://www.frusiya.com/english/racer...eNo=6&PartNo=1

Badr Alkawakib was of course sired by...

قاطف(ايرلندا)

Out of the good race mare...

الغطريفه

In both races -- the field carried weight of "56"

my miss storm cat 02-03-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 836330)

Badr Alkawakib was of course sired by...

قاطف(ايرلندا)

Out of the good race mare...

الغطريفه

:tro:

Fulla Sheets 02-04-2012 05:18 AM

Video of Fly Downs race.

http://www.dubairacenight.com/kreem-...-in-kings-cup/

Unless you know Arabic, the mute button is recommended. Fly Down is #6 and breaks from post 3.

He still doesn't change leads in the stretch.

Calzone Lord 02-04-2012 09:20 AM

Hopefully he improves upon his 13th place finish in last years Dubai World Cup.

Great race call by that announcer, by the way.

PatCummings 02-04-2012 03:35 PM

There is absolutely no arguing that Fly Down was given an atrocious ride - he should've won with a little more patience. It was stone cold awful. He hit the lead with 5/16ths to go!??

Just a disgraceful ride from Johnny Murtagh. Not as bad as his ride on Soldier of Fortune in the Breeders' Cup Turf from 2008, which I'll argue is one of the worst rides in the history of the Breeders' Cup, but really bad.

PatCummings 02-04-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 836373)
Hopefully he improves upon his 13th place finish in last years Dubai World Cup.

Great race call by that announcer, by the way.

Not saying I understand it, but this guy is newer - the old guy literally yelled and screamed the entire race.

Calzone Lord 02-04-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 836467)
There is absolutely no arguing that Fly Down was given an atrocious ride - he should've won with a little more patience. It was stone cold awful. He hit the lead with 5/16ths to go!??

Just a disgraceful ride from Johnny Murtagh. Not as bad as his ride on Soldier of Fortune in the Breeders' Cup Turf from 2008, which I'll argue is one of the worst rides in the history of the Breeders' Cup, but really bad.

Fly Down had perfect position into the 1st turn -- he saved all the ground on both turns -- he made the lead willingly and had a clear trip. Assuming the rail wasn't dead -- I don't see a problem with that ride. The horse was struggling on his wrong lead late and may have an issue.

PatCummings 02-04-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 836563)
Fly Down had perfect position into the 1st turn -- he saved all the ground on both turns -- he made the lead willingly and had a clear trip. Assuming the rail wasn't dead -- I don't see a problem with that ride. The horse was struggling on his wrong lead late and may have an issue.

Fly Down did not save all the ground on both turns, especially not the second turn. He wasn't crazy wide, but I wouldn't term his trip a ground-saving one.

El Amarillista and Shibl Noofa (Amor De Pobre) were sent off as rabbits for Robust Wish, and I think it's pretty difficult to deny that Fly Down was too close to the pace. Because so many horses share common ownership, (there were eight owners of the 18 horses), team tactics are frequently used in racing there. Combine that with the profile of this race in previous years, the wide move is often times the most successful one.

In the end, I would've liked to see Fly Down win because of his past in the US, but I can tell you the owner doesn't care, cause he had the top two anyway. That being said, I still think it was a bum ride, especially in light of where the winner came from to win.

Calzone Lord 02-04-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings (Post 836584)
Fly Down did not save all the ground on both turns, especially not the second turn. He wasn't crazy wide, but I wouldn't term his trip a ground-saving one.

He was rail-rail in like an 18 horse field!

He came outside of one horse on the far turn briefly -- but that was it.

It was an excellent ride from a positional standpoint as well.


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