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Coach Pants 09-08-2010 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 693731)
If two schizophrenics hear voices -- one hears a voice always telling him to kill you, and the other hears a voice always telling him to be kind to others, which one would you rather hang out with?
None of the above.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-08-2010 03:41 PM
at least they dont pick you up by your hair!!

joeydb 09-08-2010 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 693732)
If this causes one additional death or beheading, then hopefully karma will visit this stupid Pastor.
If this causes one additional death or beheading, it will be the fault of the perpetrator of that action, as it always is.

Antitrust32 09-08-2010 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 693731)
If two schizophrenics hear voices -- one hears a voice always telling him to kill you, and the other hears a voice always telling him to be kind to others, which one would you rather hang out with?
neither.

The new testiment is the best of all the fiction books.. because Jesus preached love and kindness. Buddha is also the man.

the old testiment and the Koran are both on par for me. Both sick books.

If (not all of course) Christians would focus on Jesus more, and stop picking and choosing quotes from the Old testiment, while trying to constantly judge others, they would be more bearable.

What is most comical though, is members of one fairy tale religion laughing at another religion for being crazy. And its not like Christianity hasnt had its fair share of violent behavior.

joeydb 09-08-2010 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 693741)
neither.

The new testiment is the best of all the fiction books.. because Jesus preached love and kindness. Buddha is also the man.

the old testiment and the Koran are both on par for me. Both sick books.

If (not all of course) Christians would focus on Jesus more, and stop picking and choosing quotes from the Old testiment, while trying to constantly judge others, they would be more bearable.

What is most comical though, is members of one fairy tale religion laughing at another religion for being crazy. And its not like Christianity hasnt had its fair share of violent behavior.
Don't forget the Hindus too. They are peaceful people also.

I can agree along those lines -- if a particular religion supports peace and understanding and doesn't tell anyone to go forth and slay nonbelievers, I am cool with it.

Regarding Christianity -- and where it is different from the Old Testament, as you indicate, is that Christ himself never made a quote that can be interpreted as "go and kill unbelievers" or "the violation of this rule warrants death." Never that I can recall reading anyway. The transgressions of those who have practiced Christianity are a result of NOT having heard the message completely or in context.

The Supreme Being, if anyone believes He is out there, will dwarf any of our primitive religions that we use to get to know Him. None of them has it all correct.

Coach Pants 09-08-2010 03:54 PM
And Jesus said, "Don't blow another dude or you'll burn in hell. LOL."

Antitrust32 09-08-2010 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 693736)

And yes, I understand the semantic issue between "having" to move and thinking they "should" move, but if public outrage and offense causes the same thing in the end, I feel like it's essentially the same thing, and that's not how we should be doing things, with majorities dictating which rights minorities should have full and unfettered access to -- sound familiar?
are you talking about black people??


;)

brianwspencer 09-08-2010 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 693753)
are you talking about black people??


;)
When am I not? :D

Antitrust32 09-08-2010 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 693746)
Don't forget the Hindus too. They are peaceful people also.

I can agree along those lines -- if a particular religion supports peace and understanding and doesn't tell anyone to go forth and slay nonbelievers, I am cool with it.

Regarding Christianity -- and where it is different from the Old Testament, as you indicate, is that Christ himself never made a quote that can be interpreted as "go and kill unbelievers" or "the violation of this rule warrants death." Never that I can recall reading anyway. The transgressions of those who have practiced Christianity are a result of NOT having heard the message completely or in context.

The Supreme Being, if anyone believes He is out there, will dwarf any of our primitive religions that we use to get to know Him. None of them has it all correct.

Jesus' message is a good one. I think he was a great man. I dont believe he had an invisible father.. but he is not the problem with these "church of god" type christians.

The ones making the most noise and judging others all the time are always reaching into the Old testiment. Old testiment advocated a lot of nastiness and murder. Moses and Muhommad arent too different.

A lot of Christians are real good people.. the fanatics making the most noise and getting the most attention are ruining it for the good ones.

I guess its a little bit similar to Muslims and radical Muslims... one is ruining it for the other. Big differences in being that JC is much more peaceful that Muhommad.. and that radical Christians are just annoying and repressing.. where as radical Muslims are much more dangerous and pure killers.

Danzig 09-08-2010 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 693686)
So what? Are we supposed to be all scared now? Keep the military on alert and whoever tries something against our guys won't be around too long.

Bottom line: since the moderates are not speaking out and only the radicals have the microphone, "kill the infidels" and all that bull... they are not going to get much tolerance as they themselves give none.

How's this: would the protests get bigger if instead of burning one Quran they burn 10, 100, 1000, or 10,000? When you start out at maximum shrillness and riot-like behavior, it's tough to go up from there.

How does this book burning -- which I am not supporting -- compare to the beheadings of Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, and several others? Where's our protests and reaction?

They burn our flag all the time over there -- and the Star of David too. They burn our leaders in effigy. They rioted over cartoons published in Denmark. Maybe this pastor in Florida sees it as a little payback.
that is simply untrue. when the moderate muslim in new york was speaking, or trying to, everyone was only talking about folks like the guy you linked to above. thing is, the agenda is that all muslims are evil, so only articles that exhibit that are generally being posted.
as for this line from the article:

'the tolerance and commitment to dialog by Muslims is being displayed overseas by Australian Muslim preacher Feiz Mohammad'.

this guy speaks for all muslims? he's hired by them? i doubt it. he's no more their spokesman than jesse jackson is for all african-americans, or sarah palin
for all republicans.

people with an agenda will find things to support their view, while ignoring everything else that goes against their opinion-it even has a scientific name.

clyde 09-08-2010 06:21 PM
Danny...is there a way we could get you to go back to Memphis?




Don't you have those blues yet?

Danzig 09-08-2010 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 693782)
Danny...is there a way we could get you to go back to Memphis?




Don't you have those blues yet?
sure, send me the money we'd miss by skipping work, and we'd be glad to go back.

clyde 09-08-2010 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 693785)
sure, send me the money we'd miss by skipping work, and we'd be glad to go back.

But you live in Pleasantville...you have plenty of money and don't need to work.


What?...no vacay photos?

Danzig 09-08-2010 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 693787)
But you live in Pleasantville...you have plenty of money and don't need to work.


What?...no vacay photos?
if i didn't work, i wouldn't have plenty of money.

and i can't show my photos on here...:o

clyde 09-08-2010 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 693792)
if i didn't work, i wouldn't have plenty of money.

and i can't show my photos on here...:o


tssssssssssssssssssssss!!





PM them to me...OK?

Danzig 09-08-2010 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 693795)
tssssssssssssssssssssss!![/color][/color][/size][/i][/b]





PM them to me...OK?
yeah, sure. i'll get right on that.

clyde 09-08-2010 06:44 PM
Thanks so much.




Wait while I turn it on.

clyde 09-08-2010 06:45 PM
OK hot stuff..it's on.



Start sending.

SCUDSBROTHER 09-08-2010 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 693781)
people with an agenda will find things to support their view, while ignoring everything else that goes against their opinion-it even has a scientific name.
Well, you do this every couple days or so on here. Lets get something straight here. The guy who started this "religion" did it with massive force. He terrorized people into joining. He was a butcher. Now, if you want to believe something said by the followers of a butcher, then, that's you. I'm not gunna believe anything the followers of a butcher have to say. Moral people aren't interested in following the teachings of a butcher. Period. Excuse us for not believing the followers of a damn butcher...Good grief.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-08-2010 07:28 PM
if this guy wants to burn a book he can..thats his right...all the outside pressure from all the other religons is pretty grand stand to me..it wont make them hate americans any more than they already do.


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