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dellinger63 07-20-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 671806)
He was involved in the Acorn scam,.


:tro::tro::tro:

Rupert Pupkin 07-21-2010 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 671746)
Are there surely racists at the NAACP just like there are in about any group? Yea, but gosh, it sure would be awful to see cowardly Republicans like Andrew Breitbart taking things out of context (again) and others using things out of context (again) for political gain, wouldn't it? Cheapshot artists like it's their/your job.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/20/...sherrod-video/

The Obama Administration obviously disagreed with the assesment of the website you provided the link to. The Obama Administration demanded that the woman resign. I guess they didn't buy your argument that the video was taken out of context.

It's not as if the video was doctored. They played a few minutes of the video where this woman told the story of how she didn't want to really help this guy because he was white. I honestly don't know what to make of the whole thing. I guess I would have to hear the whole speech to really make an accurate determination but the two minutes of the speech that I heard don't sound too good.

By the way, when you guys quote something outlandish that Ann Coulter saya or that Rush Limbaugh says, do you guys quote the entire speech or just the outlandish parts? Both sides are obviously guilty of only playing the soundbites that make the person on the opposite side sound bad.

Anyway, once the entire speech of this woman is released, I think we will all have a better idea of what she was trying to say.

By the way, to steal your words, it sure would be awful to see cowardly Democrats like Keith Olberman taking things out of context (again) and others using things out of context (again) for political gain, wouldn't it? Like the way Olberman tried to smear the guy who worked for the Hawaii elections board. Olberman tried to insinuate that the guy was a racist even though there is no evidence of that.

Rupert Pupkin 07-21-2010 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 671806)
That's what he does. He was involved in the Acorn scam, too.

You mean he showed the world that Acorn is a scam.

Rupert Pupkin 07-21-2010 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 671746)
Are there surely racists at the NAACP just like there are in about any group? Yea, but gosh, it sure would be awful to see cowardly Republicans like Andrew Breitbart taking things out of context (again) and others using things out of context (again) for political gain, wouldn't it? Cheapshot artists like it's their/your job.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/20/...sherrod-video/

If you listen to the interview with the lady who lost her job, you will notice that she doesn't blame Beitbart at all. She blames the Obama Administration and the NAACP.

Nascar1966 07-21-2010 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 671366)
Jackson and Sharpton aren't racists. They're street hustlers, who use race as an integral part of their con jobs.

Wow they have you fooled.

Crown@club 07-21-2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 671863)
Wow they have you fooled.

No. They don't believe the stuff they say any more than I do.

Riot 07-21-2010 09:59 AM

Looks like Breitbart and Faux News have been caught out as stone cold liars: this morning brings lots of rampaging against them for putting out the clip, (and against the Obama administration for reacting too soon), and demanding the woman get her job back. Even Glenn Beck is apologizing.

Coach Pants 07-21-2010 10:05 AM

Another mistake by Team Obama. You can blame Breitbart and Fox all you want but the reality is Team Obama got troll'd.

Riot 07-21-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 671923)
Another mistake by Team Obama. You can blame Breitbart and Fox all you want but the reality is Team Obama got troll'd.

They did indeed. They need to stop listening to the dog whistles. At least NCAA apologized and said they were wrong. This lady should have her job back by the end of business today.

Riot 07-21-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 671844)
You mean he showed the world that Acorn is a scam.

No, they paid for the silly looking fake pimp kid to go to office after office after office, until they got a tape they could edit the crap out of and make Acorn look bad.

Coach Pants 07-21-2010 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 671925)
They did indeed. They need to stop listening to the dog whistles. At least NCAA apologized and said they were wrong. This lady should have her job back by the end of business today.

I agree. She would be wise to decline and tell her story instead...which is what will happen.

Danzig 07-21-2010 10:20 AM

i saw a headline in which she said she might not want her job back....lawyers no doubt circling the blood in the water like sharks looking for a juicy morsel.

brianwspencer 07-21-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 671842)
The Obama Administration obviously disagreed with the assesment of the website you provided the link to. The Obama Administration demanded that the woman resign. I guess they didn't buy your argument that the video was taken out of context.

Because they're spineless sacks who are for some ungodly reason, afraid of professional liar and sack of sh*t Andrew Breitbart, which shouldn't be surprising given the lack of a pair that they've shown in anything else.

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 671842)
I guess I would have to hear the whole speech to really make an accurate determination but the two minutes of the speech that I heard don't sound too good.

Yea, I guess you would. That sentence is absolutely laughable and the exact M.O. for you. "Well, I guess I would have to hear the whole thing, right? But since I didn't bother to, she's a racist. But yea, you're right, I should hear the rest so I know more about it. But until then, she's a racist."

For Christ's sake, Rupert, the entire story she told was about her having held prejudices and overcoming them and realizing that nobody wanted to help a poor person regardless of their color. The white farmer she speaks of would certainly disagree with your lazy assessment, considering that they call Sherrod a good friend and have since then.

Also, where is Princess Doreen to defend Sherrod? You calling Sherrod a racist is as bad as calling her the N-word when it's unsubstantiated, which it clearly is if you bothered to do your homework rather than believing f*cking Andrew Breitbart. Are you kidding me? The second-least credible conservative hack liar out there has 10x the credibility of Andrew Breitbart.

brianwspencer 07-21-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 671846)
If you listen to the interview with the lady who lost her job, you will notice that she doesn't blame Beitbart at all. She blames the Obama Administration and the NAACP.

File this under not shocking items that don't prove what you think they do.

Of course she does, because Breitbart is a known liar and POS, and the NAACP and the administration *believed* that he would offer up an honest clip of her, had a knee-jerk reaction to get her out of her job without backing her up when she was pitted against the biggest POS in the conservative world.

I'd blame them too, not a known liar for being a liar. I'd blame my bosses for not believing me when stacked up against Andrew Breitbart.

Riot 07-21-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 671941)
The second-least credible conservative hack liar out there has 10x the credibility of Andrew Breitbart.

Glennie? :D Probably.

Coach Pants 07-21-2010 10:35 AM

Breitbart is a businessman. Whether you agree or disagree with what he did you have to admit it was an absolutely brilliant business move.

brianwspencer 07-21-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 671946)
Glennie? :D Probably.

I wouldn't disagree with that. At least he has some good intentions, even if they're misguided, in my opinion.

Breitbart trades in sleaze, lies, and deception, and the fact that the Administration fired someone based on what he showed without getting the full story is a disgusting disgrace.

Riot 07-21-2010 10:36 AM

White House backs off Sherrod firing
 
Here we go: Jason Linkins reporting today:

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So, yesterday, Shirley Sherrod, the USDA's rural development director for the state of Georgia, was sacked because she dared to appear in a video truncated to make her appear to be some racist land-reform zealot. The video was subsequently blasted around the world by Andrew Breitbart, who wanted to mislead people just as fast as he could.

Later, it was reported that Sherrod was about the furthest thing from a racist -- which means she wasn't fired for cause, she was fired because everyone panicked in the face of a media scandal that turned out to be non-existent and which unraveled the moment people began the work of diligent verification.

Since then, my cynical heart has been tickled to watch the Obama administration frantically back away from the stupid decision to fire Sherrod. I've been led to believe that this was all Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack's call.

U.S. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced Sherrod's resignation in a statement, saying the department has "zero tolerance" for discrimination. Sherrod told CNN that Cheryl Cook, deputy undersecretary for Rural Development, called her three times on Monday to eventually demand her resignation on behalf of the White House.

And, via Ben Smith, here's how the White House sees it:

A White House official told me just now that the White House backs Vilsack's decision -- but that it was Vilsack's alone. The official said the White House -- contrary to the Sherrod's charge -- did not pressure the Department to fire her.

I can easily understand why the Obama administration wants nothing to do with this decision, seeing as how it would look for all the world that the White House serves at the pleasure of Breitbart's agitated humors, but this is just silly: it cannot be Vilsack's decision "alone" if it has the backing of the White House.

Here's some Real Talk: if we can accept that the dudes aboard the Deepwater Horizon oil rig who made a bunch of bad decisions that led to the destruction of the Gulf coast are part of the "Tony Hayward administration," then Tom Vilsack is definitely a part of the "Obama administration." And responsibility accretes along similar lines. Full stop.

Riot 07-21-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 671949)
the fact that the Administration fired someone based on what he showed without getting the full story is a disgusting disgrace.

It is. It has to be Axe, not Rahm, in this driver's seat. Where are their balls when it comes to the GOP? Can you imagine what LBJ would have done with this?

Riot 07-21-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 671936)
i saw a headline in which she said she might not want her job back....lawyers no doubt circling the blood in the water like sharks looking for a juicy morsel.

The other side has made it a bit of a game this administration, picking out low-level political appointees just doing their jobs.

Which is why nobody wants to give 2 or 4 years to public service in Washington any more.


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