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Cannon Shell 10-25-2009 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Habersham000
You can't compare last years freshman class to this years yet.....we haven't seen what this years freshman stallions can do when their horses turn 3. Right now your comparing a class with only 2 yo in october to a class that has had 2 crops of 2yo and a crop of 3yo.....we have had some grade 1 winners out of this years freshman class so this could be a nice class.
While stranger things have happened, it is highly doubtful that this years freshman stallions will have any lasting impact, let alone be anywhere in the same stratosphere as last years outstanding group.

CSC 10-25-2009 09:42 AM
Not a stellar list though I would expect GZ's numbers to improve. A horse I always liked was Southern Image, his stud fee was a cheap $7500 as a freshman, 9-28 with earnings of $253,440 thus far. Maybe he can rise to the top with more exposure. A bargain compared to GZ or RHT.

Cannon Shell 10-25-2009 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CSC
Not a stellar list though I would expect GZ's numbers to improve. A horse I always liked was Southern Image, his stud fee was a cheap $7500 as a freshman, 9-28 with earnings of $253,440 thus far. Maybe he can rise to the top with more exposure. A bargain compared to GZ or RHT.
I think SI will be standing in New Mexico or Texas soon.

CSC 10-25-2009 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I think SI will be standing in New Mexico or Texas soon.
Sounds like a demotion. No one likes him? For 7500 stud fee he certainly is cheap enough though he probably won't attract that many nice mares.

Sightseek 10-26-2009 12:10 PM
Two more stakes winners for Kitten's Joy this weekend, that had to give him a boost.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-26-2009 12:22 PM
He surged into 2nd place.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-29-2009 09:58 AM
Dark Kestrel's 3rd offspring to hit the track - Key to Brooklyn - is 3/1 on the morning line in a 34K MSW race for 2yo's at Penn National tonight.

The 5/2 morning line favorite in the race is a Todd Beattie trained debuter by Medagalia D'oro. That one is a half sibling to 6 time stakes winner - and two-time Salvator Mile winner Presidential Affair.

Linny 12-29-2009 12:35 PM
I think Penn has cancelled for tonight. I hope they bring that race back though. It might be an interesting one to see, and play.

Cannon Shell 12-29-2009 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I think SI will be standing in New Mexico or Texas soon.
I didnt go far enough west. Now in CA.

Cannon Shell 12-29-2009 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Two more stakes winners for Kitten's Joy this weekend, that had to give him a boost.
Raising KJ's fee to $40k next breeding season is insanity.

freddymo 12-29-2009 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Raising KJ's fee to $40k next breeding season is insanity.
What does 40k advertised mean..Free if we love your mare, 20k if your mare is reasonable, and 40k if you are a complete FN moron?

Sightseek 12-29-2009 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Raising KJ's fee to $40k next breeding season is insanity.
Wow, what did he start at?

I'm guessing that Ramsey will send at least 2 Kittens to the Derby.

Cannon Shell 12-29-2009 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo
What does 40k advertised mean..Free if we love your mare, 20k if your mare is reasonable, and 40k if you are a complete FN moron?
It is Ken Ramsey. He will want the 40k everytime. If you havent noticed, about 90% of KJ's foals are homebreds.

Cannon Shell 12-29-2009 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Wow, what did he start at?

I'm guessing that Ramsey will send at least 2 Kittens to the Derby.
They need to get graded earnings which will be hard since there are very few graded grass races for 3 year olds in the spring

Sightseek 12-29-2009 09:15 PM
He's actually got a bunch listed on his website that RNA

http://tbsales.com/clients/view.php?id=132

Scav 12-29-2009 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Wow, what did he start at?

I'm guessing that Ramsey will send at least 2 Kittens to the Derby.
William's Kitten (http://www.pedigreequery.com/williams+kitten) is one that might have some potential. His LAD win was pretty nice (beat nothing though). He also ran 2nd to Super Saver in the Kentucky JC at Churchill

Sightseek 12-29-2009 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
William's Kitten (http://www.pedigreequery.com/williams+kitten) is one that might have some potential. His LAD win was pretty nice (beat nothing though). He also ran 2nd to Super Saver in the Kentucky JC at Churchill
He did look ok, it would have been nice if he had picked up his feet a little faster in the Juvenile though. :D

Sightseek 12-29-2009 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
They need to get graded earnings which will be hard since there are very few graded grass races for 3 year olds in the spring
He'll be all over the synthetic races!

NTamm1215 12-29-2009 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
William's Kitten (http://www.pedigreequery.com/williams+kitten) is one that might have some potential. His LAD win was pretty nice (beat nothing though). He also ran 2nd to Super Saver in the Kentucky JC at Churchill
I agree on both accounts. He ran a very nice race at LaD and Gomez said afterwards that he didn't even get into him that day. He made a nice move in the KJC and should only improve off of that race.

NT

Sightseek 12-29-2009 09:31 PM
Unless she is missing a leg, wouldn't this filly have some worth as a broodmare prospect? (on their RNA list)

http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/sep09/pdfs/3658.pdf


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