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Holland Hacker 06-05-2009 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pointman
Steve, if you bet the late pk4 now and the race gets taken off turf and a horse you use scratches, do you automatically get a winner in that race or do you get post time favorite?
My understanding is that you get the post time favorite if your horse scratches. Once the pick 4 starts if a race is than taken off the turf than you get an ALL.

I hope this makes sense.

If I'm wrong I'm sure some one will provide the correct answer.

hockey2315 06-05-2009 12:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
I don't get him at all... Only if it comes off.
Some pretty good turf runners in the pedigree. . . too bad the weather ruined an otherwise interesting last three races.

pointman 06-05-2009 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
Good points, what we do know is Delosvientos is going to go for the lead no matter who goes with him, it's the only way he knows how to run, the question is will someone make a decision to go with him, if they do it will certainly be a suicide mission setting it up for someone to come later. Interesting race from a tactical point of view, one thing I have learned the hard way over the yrs never assume what a rider is going to do in a race.
True, you never know what a jockey will do. If he gets an easy lead he will be tough, I just think that if someone is even within a length of him he will fold before the wire. Good Luck today!!

pointman 06-05-2009 12:38 PM
The 9th is now off the turf as of 1:36 p.m.

hockey2315 06-05-2009 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pointman
True, you never know what a jockey will do. If he gets an easy lead he will be tough, I just think that if someone is even within a length of him he will fold before the wire. Good Luck today!!
His last was so incredibly bad that I wouldn't even be worried about him with the easiest of leads. If he wins, so be it, but he's an auto-toss at that price.

declansharbor 06-05-2009 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315
His last was so incredibly bad that I wouldn't even be worried about him with the easiest of leads. If he wins, so be it, but he's an auto-toss at that price.
Couldn't agree more. Total pitch.

pointman 06-05-2009 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey2315
His last was so incredibly bad that I wouldn't even be worried about him with the easiest of leads. If he wins, so be it, but he's an auto-toss at that price.
I am tossing since I don't think he will get an easy lead, but you may be right off that last.

tiggerv 06-05-2009 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pointman
The 9th is now off the turf as of 1:36 p.m.
Crap, that ends my betting day then. Lime Rickey was going to bankroll my entire day tomorrow.

philcski 06-05-2009 01:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey2315
His last was so incredibly bad that I wouldn't even be worried about him with the easiest of leads. If he wins, so be it, but he's an auto-toss at that price.
agree- I'm singling Ea.

hockey2315 06-05-2009 01:31 PM
I like Alcomo and Rising Moon a little. . . don't really get the appeal of Ea if he gets bet.

declansharbor 06-05-2009 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315
I like Alcomo and Rising Moon a little. . . don't really get the appeal of Ea if he gets bet.
Just curious, is this because of the track condition or would they have been your plays even on a fast track? Thanks in advance.

Mike 06-05-2009 01:56 PM
I'm going to start with the 7th, though off the turf, I'll exacta box Officer Flirt and Dziki

hockey2315 06-05-2009 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Just curious, is this because of the track condition or would they have been your plays even on a fast track? Thanks in advance.
They look like the right ones to me regardless of track condition. No horse in the race has a record on mud or a pedigree that makes me want to move them up on a wet track if we're operating under the premise that Delosvientos is an automatic play against (if he were 6-1+ I think he'd move from a toss to the value, though). Eldaafer is the one I like underneath - also not because of the mud.

Coach Pants 06-05-2009 02:07 PM
Race 5
$2 pick 3
4,9
3,4,6
4,8

Coach Pants 06-05-2009 02:22 PM
Race 6
$2 pick 3
3,4,6
4,8
8,11,12

Mike 06-05-2009 02:27 PM
Conservative box of Delosvientos/Rising Moon in the feature

DJARUM 06-05-2009 02:31 PM
Bel Pk3
3-4
6
7-11-13

CSC 06-05-2009 02:40 PM
I'll jump aboard with Pocket Cowboys here.

Coach Pants 06-05-2009 02:46 PM
:rolleyes:

herkhorse 06-05-2009 03:06 PM
pic 4

4-5-7-8/7-8-13/3-9/2-7-9


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