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hoovesupsideyourhead 06-01-2009 06:33 PM

it does to me and im more interested in the current track moisture level

pgardn 06-01-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bystander
That wouldn't be necessary, he's not the douche.

Line drive over the head of an
innocent Bystander.

my bad.
short history.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-01-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Nicely done ( including, but not exclusive to, not quoting him ).

Are you two finished yet?

Perhaps you guys never got the memo, but ...

One half year ago the proudest boast was 'At least I'm not Morty'. Today, in the world of freedom, the proudest boast is Ich bin ein Douchebag.

VOL JACK 06-01-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Are you two finished yet?

Perhaps you guys never got the memo, but ...

One half year ago the proudest boast was 'At least I'm not Morty'. Today, in the world of freedom, the proudest boast is Ich bin ein Douchebag.

Nice Avatar.

You should hook up Pat Day as his Jock agent...You could hand out Track Chaplain bulletins while booking his mounts. ;)

philcski 06-01-2009 09:25 PM

File this one under 'Who gives a fuc|<'.

Summer Colony a pole! 06-01-2009 09:37 PM

Beyers
 
:zz: - I would like to see all synthetic horse Beyers updated. From Pioneerof the Nile to Giacomo (not just going back to January).

- I think that it is great for Andy Beyer to recognize a mistake and change it. Unlike Secretariat’s final time in the Preakness.... where I am still to hear that there was a timer malfunction.;)

NTamm1215 06-01-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Summer Colony a pole!
:zz: - I would like to see all synthetic horse Beyers updated. From Pioneerof the Nile to Giacomo (not just going back to January).

- I think that it is great for Andy Beyer to recognize a mistake and change it. Unlike Secretariat’s final time in the Preakness.... where I am still to hear that there was a timer malfunction.;)

There's not enough time in the day for Beyer to update Giacomo's synthetic Beyers.

NT

blackthroatedwind 06-01-2009 09:51 PM

I assume you think he should lower Pioneer of the Nile's numbers.

letswastemoney 06-01-2009 09:59 PM

Zenyatta must look like a super monster in her PPs now that the beyers have been tweaked.

blackthroatedwind 06-01-2009 10:02 PM

How surprising that many that commented in this thread clearly don't even seem to have taken the time to read the article.

smuthg 06-01-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
How surprising that many that commented in this thread clearly don't even seem to have taken the time to read the article.

just like the changes will be impreceptible to most...

Indian Charlie 06-01-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Tuesday on 'At the Races', Andy Beyer at 4:15. He will be elaborating on the changes to the Figures for synthetic surfaces. Andy will talk about the impetus for the change and methodology involved and take listeners respectful and intelligent calls...

How will you arrange that?

Indian Charlie 06-02-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Today, in the world of freedom, the proudest boast is Ich bin ein Douchebag.

Rammstein?

chucklestheclown 06-02-2009 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
How will you arrange that?

??? I'm not a big Beyer's person to begin with, but the synth tracks, like Keeneland, have been providing numbers on their own. The Beyer people have no choice but to respond or go the way of General Motors.

Indian Charlie 06-02-2009 03:18 AM

I was referring to the part I bolded.

Kasept 06-02-2009 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
How will you arrange that?

:D

Coach Pants 06-02-2009 09:21 AM

Hey! Dusty Rhodes is a scholar!

parsixfarms 06-02-2009 12:34 PM

Beyer is admitting that the assumptions upon which he previously relied in making speed figures for synthetic races were flawed. Why should we think that the new assumptions are any more accurate. He staes that he is essentially tweaking the figures to fit the following conclusory proposition:

"But the general rule is: The fastest races produce higher figures, the slowest races produce lower figures."

In many respects, it appears that Beyer is now treating synthetic races in much the same way that he has treated turf races. And my sense about their turf figures is that, given the manner in which those races are run, the turf figures rarely deviate significantly from the pars for a given class. With the above statement, is that what we are likely to get from Beyer figures for synthetic races? If so, why not just assign a class rating for non-dirt races and don't worry about calculating a "speed" figure.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-02-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Rammstein?

No...

This dude ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7drzQ...eature=related

alysheba4 06-02-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Zenyatta must look like a super monster in her PPs now that the beyers have been tweaked.

...well, she is a super monster al......


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