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sdjcom 05-14-2009 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Those horses better be nice to her. They may breed to her someday

i hear ya, i think most of the trainers and jockeys are worried more about MTB coming late than RA up front.

rontheman1964 05-14-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom
everybody talking about her 20 lenght win , impressive, Calvin did even move on her, do you really think she will run and look like that Sat? there will be a big surprise coming for all the guys and girls betting the milk money on her. GO BIG POTN


I agree totally. The 20 length win was ultra-impressive, but I don't think she can re-produce that race coming right back. I think it's a golden opportunity to find a more than generous priced winner and even play some tickets with her off of the board.

Indian Charlie 05-14-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom
i hear ya, i think most of the trainers and jockeys are worried more about MTB coming late than RA up front.

Uh, yeah, right.

The only ones worrying more about that will be the connections of MTB.

eajinabi 05-15-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Uh, yeah, right.

The only ones worrying more about that will be the connections of MTB.

Not really, they happy just to "light up the board"

JerseyJ 05-15-2009 12:48 AM

Pioneerof the Nile stinks...he ran the same typically average race that he always ran, and on top of that, should have finished lower had he not impeded a few other horses. Pioneerof the Nile will be off the board in the Preakness, that much I am confident about. As for the rest, who knows how it will play out.

Bernardini 05-15-2009 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
Pioneerof the Nile stinks...he ran the same typically average race that he always ran, and on top of that, should have finished lower had he not impeded a few other horses. Pioneerof the Nile will be off the board in the Preakness, that much I am confident about. As for the rest, who knows how it will play out.

i disagree, i think he is very consistent, at least this year... he has palced ahead of all top 3yo colts (except QR). If he is average? what does that say about the competion?

blackthroatedwind 05-15-2009 07:27 AM

Am I the only one that noticed a first time poster named Scat Daddy.....and in a thread started by Bernardini no less?

Somebody bring back the Chalkeaters Anonymous thread.

TheSpyder 05-15-2009 07:32 AM

he only think that will get in her way is traffic or the finish line.

If it's the first, I'm taking a stab on Terrian. If it's the second, bye bye!

Gate Dancer 05-15-2009 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Those horses better be nice to her. They may breed to her someday

The closest any of these colts will get to her is on the track Saturday. None of these will get within miles of her at the breeding shed.

As for the race, I agree it will be a 3 pronged attack keeping her honest...........Big Drama and Take The Points early, Pioneer and Friesen Fire on the far turn and Musket Man and Mine That Bird in the stretch. I'm playing against her.

knickslions2 05-15-2009 08:09 AM

Papa Clem baby is ready to win this one!!

kgar311 05-15-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom
if they go 47 and change she has a shot below 47 1st 1/2 she's done. look @ her pp over 1mile, I think POTN will move forward on a fast track with MTB and General Quarters plc/shw. if a bettor has some money they can afford to lose and risk with high rewards this is a good time to pitch her and bet against. too many factors against a low odds filly in with colts, can she win yes, will she win i doubt it. good-luck to all ps. i picked curlin to beat RTR lol...

Let me save everyone money and give a simple tip. GENERAL QUARTERS IS NOT A GOOD HORSE SAVE YOUR MONEY AND PLACE IT ELSE WHERE, THE HORSE WILL NOT HIT THE BOARD. GUARANTEED!!!

skippy3481 05-15-2009 09:32 AM

SDJ
She wont be rating 5 or 6 horses back she will be in the top 3 just not sitting on big dramas flank. If they go 46 for the half. There wont be many horses around her. They will all be sitting back and stalking. If rachel is at the front of this group, which she should be, then you wont stop her. If she can sit third off the speed horses, she will win for fun.

Clip-Clop 05-15-2009 10:00 AM

Breeding?
 
Not really sure any of these are the type that would get bred to the likes of her.
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alysheba4 05-15-2009 10:02 AM

i am going F.F / DRAMA / M.T.B.....in a tri box. as a big pioneer fan i finally realized what alot of people have been saying for the past six weeks.......he lacks a burst. general quarters? seems like a slow horse. if the filly wins, so be it.

sdjcom 05-15-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Uh, yeah, right.

The only ones worrying more about that will be the connections of MTB.

ok Tonto, who do you like or what's your view on the preakness. you rarely say anything of an opinion just snide comments.

sdjcom 05-15-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
SDJ
She wont be rating 5 or 6 horses back she will be in the top 3 just not sitting on big dramas flank. If they go 46 for the half. There wont be many horses around her. They will all be sitting back and stalking. If rachel is at the front of this group, which she should be, then you wont stop her. If she can sit third off the speed horses, she will win for fun.

Iv'e explained my view twice about the fractions at the 1/2 and to look at her pp races over a mile, sorry you don't understand this. :wf good -luck Tommorrow

Thunder Gulch 05-15-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rontheman1964
I agree totally. The 20 length win was ultra-impressive, but I don't think she can re-produce that race coming right back. I think it's a golden opportunity to find a more than generous priced winner and even play some tickets with her off of the board.

She doesn't have to reproduce that effort to win by open lengths.

slotdirt 05-15-2009 11:21 AM

Is anybody else thinking a part back wheel with Mine that Bird in third might be the bet here?

johnny pinwheel 05-15-2009 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
She doesn't have to reproduce that effort to win by open lengths.

no kidding, shes got to run better than the last out. did you see what she beat? i think 2 or 3 of them were lucases second stringers and the one good horse scratched. the horses she beat would not finish in the same zip code with these. if people are thinking shes just going to gallop in the front like the last couple races they are sadly mistakened. i think the pace will be her undoing along with the distance. then again i'll never bet short priced fillies because they win about every 20 years or so in one of these things. i can't take that when the betting pattern on her will create overlays. she will have to prove me wrong tommorrow. its not like i have not heard all this before and seen the filly fail at a crappy price.

Antitrust32 05-15-2009 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
no kidding, shes got to run better than the last out. did you see what she beat? i think 2 or 3 of them were lucases second stringers and the one good horse scratched. the horses she beat would not finish in the same zip code with these. if people are thinking shes just going to gallop in the front like the last couple races they are sadly mistakened. i think the pace will be her undoing along with the distance. then again i'll never bet short priced fillies because they win about every 20 years or so in one of these things. i can't take that when the betting pattern on her will create overlays. she will have to prove me wrong tommorrow. its not like i have not heard all this before and seen the filly fail at a crappy price.


She can regress a few lengths and still win... who cares about her competition that she destroyed by what looked like the length of a football field. Did you see her fractional times and the final time of the race? It was outstanding and I dont think any 3yo male, including Quality Road would have beat her in the Oaks that day with those strong fractions and final time.


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