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my miss storm cat 05-17-2009 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Never on Sunday wins it!! interesting race!

:eek:

brockguy 05-17-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
Phooey :(

Did she at least place?

no, Gris de Gris 2nd and Runaway 3rd, I didnt really see the finish so dont know where she ended up.. I wouldnt lose too much hope though, her trainer is having a desperate time at the moment..

the_fat_man 05-17-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Why because she has the tactical speed to get position she should apologize for being superior to Kip Deville in that aspect? Really FM?

What can I say? You're yet another devotee of the Eric Donovan trip handicapping methodology.:rolleyes:

chucklestheclown 07-01-2009 01:30 AM

So where is she next? Has she run again since?

my miss storm cat 07-01-2009 12:56 PM

Hasn't run since and she's possible for the Falmouth.

my miss storm cat 07-02-2009 10:22 AM

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...al_153226.html

chucklestheclown 07-03-2009 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Thank You!!!

my miss storm cat 07-03-2009 02:39 PM

No problem. :)

Wednesday July 8 2009
Newmarket 15:10

Abu Dhabi Falmouth Stakes (Fillies' Group 1)
£200000.00 added, 3yo plus, 1m, Class 1
12 runners
Going: Good to Firm

Horse Age Wt Trainer Jockey OR NagMe Bet
D3-11
Cosmopolitan 18 4 9-5 J H M Gosden 88 SP SP SP
300113
Eva's Request (IRE) 21 4 9-5 M R Channon E Creighton 109 SP SP SP
31111-0
Goldikova (IRE) 52 4 9-5 F Head O Peslier - SP SP SP
2345-12
Heaven Sent 21 6 9-5 Sir Michael Stoute R L Moore 111 SP SP SP
135-126
San Sicharia (IRE) 27 4 9-5 Ms Joanna Morgan 104 SP SP SP
4144-31
Spacious 21 4 9-5 J R Fanshawe J Murtagh 107 SP SP SP
52-2465
Heart Shaped (USA) 7 3 8-10 A P O'Brien 109 SP SP SP
44-5311
Moneycantbuymelove (IRE) 21 3 8-10 M L W Bell 96 SP SP SP
53-1010
Nashmiah (IRE) 19 3 8-10 C E Brittain N Callan 105 SP SP SP
161-361
Penny's Gift 31 3 8-10 R Hannon 107 SP SP SP
111-543
Rainbow View (USA) 19 3 8-10 J H M Gosden J Fortune 114 SP SP SP
321020
Wadaat 33 3 8-10 C E Brittain 104

my miss storm cat 07-06-2009 12:09 PM

Not saying she'll win but 10/1 are kinda nice odds on Heaven Sent.

Can someone help me out? Pedigree moron... who is she a full sister to again? Thanks in advance.



Wednesday July 8 2009
Newmarket 15:10

Etihad Airways Falmouth Stakes (fillies' Group 1)
£200000.00 added, 3yo plus, 1m, Class 1, £113540.00 penalty
8 runners
Going: Good to Firm


No. Form Horse Age Wt Trainer Jockey OR NagMe Bet
1 (1) D3-11 Cosmopolitan 18 4 9-5 J H M Gosden L Dettori 88 SP SP SP
2 (8) 370113 Eva's Request (IRE) 21 4 9-5 M R Channon E Creighton 109 SP SP SP
3 (3) 31111-7 Goldikova (IRE) 52 4 9-5 F Head O Peslier 125 SP SP SP
4 (7) 2345-12 Heaven Sent 21 6 9-5 Sir Michael Stoute R L Moore 111 SP SP SP
5 (2) 135-126 San Sicharia (IRE) 27 4 9-5 Ms J Morgan T E Durcan 104 SP SP SP
6 (6) 4144-31 Spacious 21 4 9-5 J R Fanshawe J Murtagh 113 SP SP SP
7 (5) 161-361 Penny's Gift 31 3 8-10 R Hannon J P Spencer 107 SP SP SP
8 (4) 111-543 Rainbow View (USA) 19 3 8-10 J H M Gosden J Fortune 114 SP SP SP


Betting Forecast: 6/4 Rainbow View (USA), 3/1 Goldikova (IRE), 7/2 Spacious, 10/1 Eva's Request (IRE), 10/1 Heaven Sent, 20/1 Penny's Gift, 25/1 San Sicharia (IRE), 33/1 CosmopolitanVerdict

SPACIOUS is the tentative call in an intriguing race where Goldikova and Rainbow View are the other leading protagonists. The trials and tribulations of Rainbow View's season have been well documented and this could be a seminal point in her season as she bids to become the fourth consecutive three year old winner. Connections will be hoping that sufficient rain falls in the Newmarket area to take any jar out of the ground and there will be many willing to give her another chance following respectable efforts in the Oaks and the Coronation. The soft ground was offered up as a possible excuse for Goldikova's failure on her seasonal return at a time when her yard weren't firing on all cylinders. She was twice defeated by the brilliant Zarkava in May and June last season but was unbeaten thereafter and sets the benchmark but has her trip to the Breeders' Cup left a mark? This is where we find out. Spacious' form falls someway short of that level but she was only beaten half a length in the Guineas before losing her way and it could be that the new tactics adopted at the behest of Johnny Murtagh can see her assert herself at the highest level. She was allowed an uncontested lead at Royal Ascot (where Heaven Sent never looked like passing her) and it's a concern that that scenario is unlikely to develop here with Cosmopolitan and Penny's Gift likely to provide competition up front but we'll take a chance that Spacious can repel all challengers.


FORMWATCH
Cosmopolitan 6-5fav (10-0) Raced wide of main group, prominent, led over 4f out, came towards stands side rail 3f out, ridden 2f out, driven and asserted towards finish, won at Newmarket 1m flls hcp 0-85 (4) gf in Jun beating Penzena (8-0) by 3/4l, 6 ran.Eva's Request (IRE) 8-1 (8-12) Held up in last pair, headway under pressure 2f out, driven to take 3rd over 1f out, ridden and edged right inside final furlong, kept on, not pace of front pair, 3rd of 9, 4l behind Spacious (8-12) at Royal Ascot 1m (1) gf in Jun.Goldikova (IRE) 5-4fav (8-12) 7th of 9, 11l behind Never On Sunday (9-2) at Longchamp(FR) 1m 1f Grp 1 sft in May.Heaven Sent 5-2 (8-12) Chased winner throughout, driven and strong challenge over 1f out, soon every chance until found no extra and held final 100 yards, 2nd of 9, 1l behind Spacious (8-12) at Royal Ascot 1m (1) gf in Jun.San Sicharia (IRE) 4-1 (9-9) Mid-division, 6th halfway, ridden in 7th 2f out, no impression in 6th 1f out, kept on one pace, 6th of 9, 4l behind Duff (9-9) at Leopardstown 7f Grp 3 gd in Jun.Spacious 10-1 (8-12) Made all, gradually came to stands side rail 6f out, quickened tempo over 2f out, ridden and strongly pressed over 1f out, ran on well and in command final 100 yards, won at Royal Ascot 1m (1) gf in Jun beating Heaven Sent (8-12) by 1l, 9 ran.Penny's Gift 2-1fav (9-2) won at Dusseldorf(GER) 1m stks gs in Jun beating Fabiana (9-2) by nk, 12 ran.Rainbow View (USA) 13-2 (9-0) Settled in rear, pushed along over 2f out, not much room and slightly checked inside final 2f, stayed on well to take 3rd inside final furlong, not trouble leaders, 3rd of 10, 4 1/2l behind Ghanaati (9-0) at Royal Ascot 1m 3yo Fll Grp 1 (1) gf in Jun.

Sightseek 07-06-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Not saying she'll win but 10/1 are kinda nice odds on Heaven Sent.

Can someone help me out? Pedigree moron... who is she a full sister to again? Thanks in advance.



The mighty Megahertz!

my miss storm cat 07-06-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
The mighty Megahertz!

Oh right, thanks! Was going crazy trying to remember!

GPK 07-06-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
The mighty Megahertz!

:{>: :{>:

brockguy 07-06-2009 01:45 PM

Jesus, what are people doing reading stuff in the International room?

Spacious is a terrible bet here, got gifted the race last time out. Goldikova is an extraordinary price if she gets anywhere near her form last year.

King Glorious 07-06-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Jesus, what are people doing reading stuff in the International room?

Spacious is a terrible bet here, got gifted the race last time out. Goldikova is an extraordinary price if she gets anywhere near her form last year.

Check out American racing. We have two horses over here. Rachel Alexandra and Zenyatta. That's it. If we want to read and talk about racing, this is where we have to come.

brockguy 07-06-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Check out American racing. We have two horses over here. Rachel Alexandra and Zenyatta. That's it. If we want to read and talk about racing, this is where we have to come.

:)

my miss storm cat 07-06-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Check out American racing. We have two horses over here. Rachel Alexandra and Zenyatta. That's it. If we want to read and talk about racing, this is where we have to come.

I'm disappointed, Kingie. No love for Einstein?

King Glorious 07-06-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I'm disappointed, Kingie. No love for Einstein?

Einstein is a decent horse. But he hasn't fooled me. He's only upper eschelon today because there aren't any good horses. This is as horrible as the older males have been in all my years as a fan. It's kind of like grading on the curve. If there's a 10 question test and the highest score is only a five, he's the best of the class. Doesn't mean he's really good though. I like good horses, not horses that are the best of what's out there.

my miss storm cat 07-06-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Einstein is a decent horse. But he hasn't fooled me. He's only upper eschelon today because there aren't any good horses. This is as horrible as the older males have been in all my years as a fan. It's kind of like grading on the curve. If there's a 10 question test and the highest score is only a five, he's the best of the class. Doesn't mean he's really good though. I like good horses, not horses that are the best of what's out there.

I know what you're saying and before anyone starts in with me yeah I know exactly where he rates in regard to the Divas.

Just thought I'd mention him cause in the here and now, as you say, he is awfully good.

* * *

Incase she has any fans here, on Moneycantbuymelove who is not entered...

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse.../julyfestival/

King Glorious 07-06-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I know what you're saying and before anyone starts in with me yeah I know exactly where he rates in regard to the Divas.

Just thought I'd mention him cause in the here and now, as you say, he is awfully good.

* * *

Incase she has any fans here, on Moneycantbuymelove who is not entered...

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse.../julyfestival/

I don't even think he's good now. Just the best of the group. There's a difference.

SniperSB23 07-07-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
I'm disappointed, Kingie. No love for Einstein?

He's not very good on dirt. He's good in that he's solid on all three surfaces and has a lot of heart but no one is going to confuse him with a really good horse.


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