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GBBob 03-31-2009 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ
My thanks as well.

:rolleyes: as opposed to all the threads on rocket science, trips and Trackus that need to be waded through

VOL JACK 03-31-2009 08:43 AM

Now TAP has no reason to bitch, if Dunkirk doesn't get in the Ky Derby. There are no Quality Road's in there.

It's sad to think one of these crows will be in the starting gate on May 2nd and Dunkirk probaly wont.

Linny 03-31-2009 11:53 AM

Horses "don't vet out" alot and somethines it's for something chronic that may either flare up at the wrong time or something that doesn't bother the horse but that "might hurt him" down the road.
Other times they show some soreness or tenderness shortly after a big race (when potential buyers are sending in vets) and it dissipates after a few extra days.
Remember too that vets tend to want to err on the side of caution. NO VET can certify that a horse is in perfect condition or that a pre-existing condition won't cause a problem later. No vet wants to say "yes, he's suitably sound for your purposes" and have the horse go wrong a week later can happen. If they see anything questionable they like to make a big deal of it. (Most of my experience in this area is with show horses not race horses but the idea is the same. The show horses in most cases are asked to show alot and perform at a high level.)

HaloWishingwell 03-31-2009 02:15 PM

Pletcher has three in this race? Any of the three could possibly pass DUNKIRK. I bet he wishes DUNKIRK was in this race now. The only way he doesn't beat these other horses is if his gate fail to open.

Kasept 04-01-2009 12:11 PM

Lord Justice will SCR and run in the Wood..

-BT- 04-01-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
If Giant Oak doesn't win this it's really time for a surface change.


i was thinking the same... make or break to keep on the trail IMO. I actually think he's gotta win to even think about considering the derby

-bt-

miraja2 04-01-2009 01:53 PM

All I want to know is....will the ostrich race be back this year?
Whenever they do, it is usually the highlight of Illinois Derby Day at Hawthorne for me.

JJP 04-01-2009 07:48 PM

If one needed any evidence that the dollar has been debased by all the government bailouts and spending, check out this field running for $500,000. This isn't your father's $500,000. Makes one want to go out and buy gold.

GBBob 04-02-2009 11:06 AM

Track isn't slow..


Horse name His Greatness
Notes
Activity type Workout
Activity date 04-02-2009
Track Hawthorne
Surface Dirt
Distance 4 Furlongs
Workout type Breezing
Workout time 0:46.60
Track condition Fast

Scav 04-02-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
Track isn't slow..


Horse name His Greatness
Notes
Activity type Workout
Activity date 04-02-2009
Track Hawthorne
Surface Dirt
Distance 4 Furlongs
Workout type Breezing
Workout time 0:46.60
Track condition Fast

I hope he runs huge for Marco

Bigsmc 04-02-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT-
i was thinking the same... make or break to keep on the trail IMO. I actually think he's gotta win to even think about considering the derby

-bt-

If you don't win the Illinois Derby, the next Derby you should be thinking of is not the one in Kentucky.

tjfla 04-03-2009 11:12 AM

Gotta like Musket Man but my luck he gets destroyed, He did look good tho in his last start

JJP 04-03-2009 08:01 PM

IMO, Perfect Song is the one to beat here and should give Trombetta his second Illinois Derby in the last 4 years.

Borntorun 04-04-2009 10:44 AM

Rider Change
 
Checked the changes at Hawthorne's web-site and they list M. Pino on Perfect Song. Any one know why Rose is off? Thanks.

Bigsmc 04-04-2009 04:21 PM

Atta Boy Musket Man.

tjfla 04-04-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjfla
Gotta like Musket Man but my luck he gets destroyed, He did look good tho in his last start


He didn't look to bad:D

gales0678 04-04-2009 09:24 PM

muskett man
 
congrats to the connections

all this horse does is keep winning

keep up the good work derek and erik

slotdirt 04-05-2009 08:39 AM

I was impressed.


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