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Scav 03-27-2009 10:44 AM

As long as you tell the cop to stop being a tough guy and to relax, everything should be all good :)

Cannon Shell 03-27-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I know that racism isnt going to be solved by a black president, and thats not what I meant to say.. I just hope that somehow there could be rules prohibiting racial profiling with cops so that it wont be accepted anymore. But I dont know if that could happen.

And I very much disagree with your that this isnt a case of racial profiling. He may have not initially been pulled over because of his skin color but what happened after was.

And you are judging in a racist manner by saying that he is racist. You are judging the cop on a certain standard simply because he is white. As I said before you can be a bad cop, bad person or just a total jackoff and not be racist. It IS racist to assume that the cop's actions were motivated by race with no other evidence to back that up.

And while I am sure that there are already rules concerning racial profiling those are the kinds of things that actually wind up helping the defense lawyers of bad guys get off rather than really stopping the abuse. You cant legislate morality. Racism sucks but making issues of race in every black/white encounter doesnt help.

Cannon Shell 03-27-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
i feel this statement is just completely off base.

Your assumption of him being racist solely because he is white and the football player is black is a version of racism.

Antitrust32 03-27-2009 01:52 PM

I will confess that I am racist towards racisit cops.

dellinger63 03-27-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I will confess that I am racist towards racisit cops.

and maybe profiling a bit?

Cannon Shell 03-27-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I will confess that I am racist towards racisit cops.

F*uck the police!!

Coach Pants 03-27-2009 05:10 PM

How in the f.uck can that video make me feel black?

Stop being a white apologist. It's weak.

GPK 03-27-2009 06:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk

hi_im_god 03-27-2009 06:45 PM

thank god, through our collective efforts, we've managed to turn this situation into one that is about discrimination against whites.

well done politics/society.

dellinger63 03-27-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
thank god, through our collective efforts, we've managed to turn this situation into one that is about discrimination against whites.

well done politics/society.

Huh?

Swing and missssss........

hi_im_god 03-27-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Huh?

Swing and missssss........

the poor cop is being judged simply on the fact he is white.

in some segments of our country every discussion of race has to include "reverse racism" as if it's an equivalent issue.

Honu 03-27-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
the poor cop is being judged simply on the fact he is white.

in some segments of our country every discussion of race has to include "reverse racism" as if it's an equivalent issue.


I judge him on the fact that he is a heartless idiot.

Cannon Shell 03-27-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
the poor cop is being judged simply on the fact he is white.

in some segments of our country every discussion of race has to include "reverse racism" as if it's an equivalent issue.

Stirring up calls of racism everytime there is a black/white altercation makes matters worse rather than better. We have the luxury of knowing what was actually going on inside the hospital. At what point did the cop make any racist comments?

The fact that it is being called an act of racism shows how far there is to go.

DerbyCat 03-27-2009 11:01 PM

For those of you that don't know, I'm an ex-cop. Most cops aren't like this kid in Dallas but I know that there are still too many like him on the street. What didn't surprise me about this case was his approach, young cops know how to escalate a problem but they don't know how to DE-escalate, they have to show the suspect who "The Man" is - let me explain - they teach you a couple key things in the academy, 1. It's cops against everyone else ("everyone you contact on the street may kill you given the chance, don't give them that chance"), 2. Follow your S.O.P. (Standard Operating Procedure) - this is the weakness. They teach new cops how to *follow the rules* when problem solving via escalation (first use your *command presence*, if that doesn't work then try the pepper spray, after that use your baton and as a last resort, shoot them twice in their chest with your gun) but they don't teach you how to DE-escalate, how to say "I'm sorry, I made a mistake" or to let someone go, *no harm, no foul*. If you stop someone because they fit a "profile" (black man in a white neighborhood, white guy driving slowly around a Hispanic neighborhood known for drug sales), you can't let that person go with a warning, especially if you pull them out of their car and toss it, you HAVE to write a ticket to that person to *justify* what you did. This mentality is passed from senior officers to rookies and it continues throughout the years... It doesn't make it right, it just is what it is.

Until cops can see people for the fragile humans that they are, they will continue to disrespect those people that set their radar off - it's really hard to respect someone your afraid might kill you - that was the problem in Dallas.

Coach Pants 03-28-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
thank god, through our collective efforts, we've managed to turn this situation into one that is about discrimination against whites.

well done politics/society.

Huh

golfer 03-28-2009 03:29 AM

The fact that this officer believed he was doing his job properly is absolute proof he should never have the chance to do it again.

Law enforcement officers need to be held to a higher standard of behavior, based on the possible consequences of their actions.

Every day I seem to come across stories of police abuse. Is it happening more frequently, or are there just more video cameras recording it these days?

Coach Pants 03-28-2009 09:02 AM

Yeah lets hold officers to high moral standards and continue to pay them pennies on the dollar. You know, because life is f.ucking grand when you're making around $35,000/year. I mean who wouldn't be happy as a motherf.ucker with a great job like that and 3 kids and a stay at home wife living in a s.hitty duplex.

Edit: Yeah and be honest...who here really cares about their mother-in-law? I mean really.

MaTH716 03-28-2009 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by golfer
The fact that this officer believed he was doing his job properly is absolute proof he should never have the chance to do it again.

Law enforcement officers need to be held to a higher standard of behavior, based on the possible consequences of their actions.

Every day I seem to come across stories of police abuse. Is it happening more frequently, or are there just more video cameras recording it these days?

Granted the officer showed a giantic lack of common sense/compassion(and deserves to be disaplined). But he did witness someone commit several moving violations. Then when they finally stopped, he had 3 people jump out of a car and choas ensued. Like I said I don't think he handled the situation well after all the cards were on the table (But, it wasn't like he was a 20 year vet) he thought was just doing his job.

declansharbor 03-28-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DerbyCat

Until cops can see people for the fragile humans that they are, they will continue to disrespect those people that set their radar off - it's really hard to respect someone your afraid might kill you - that was the problem in Dallas.

If this happened on a drug corner or in a gang-related neighborhood, I would agree. It, however, culminated in a HOSPITAL parking lot.

This tough-guy cop must have the IQ of a sewer rat. He deserves nothing short of Michael Fay treatment, if for nothing else, for being so stupid and heartless. He did the right thing by pulling him over, but where was this d'bags common sense after they tried to explain their case?

Danzig 03-28-2009 11:45 AM

on the one hand, you do have police who hear sob stories, most of them false, every day.
on the other hand, it shouldn't have taken the yahoo 17 minutes to get to the bottom of the story.


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