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ateamstupid 03-11-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
It's a complete and absolute fuci<ing mess. People were rounded up based on "informants" turning others in - no due dilligence, nothing. If you got scooped up, all you had to do was turn in one of your neighbors that had pissed you off... What the purpose of the hysteria was is anybody's guess - all you have to do is watch what happened at Bagram and Abu Ghraib ..... The bonus is the other 90% that weren't terrorists are now. Catch "Taxi to the Darkside" on HBO - you will sh!t your pants...

Thank you. I don't have the energy to type more than two sentences in response to Rick Santorum over here.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2009 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Is this a trick question?

Uh are we in charge.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2009 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Thank you. I don't have the energy to type more than two sentences in response to Rick Santorum over here.

OK Nancy Pelosi

ateamstupid 03-11-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Uh are we in charge.

:zz:

This has to be like your "Jets suck" baiting posts. I know you're not this retarded.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
:zz:

This has to be like your "Jets suck" baiting posts. I know you're not this retarded.

Jesus Joey, We are in charge, the govt there is the one that we installed, there is very little violence against us now. What do you call that? A loss?


http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/18/git...ees/index.html
Here is some more on the situation. From an "approved" source.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2009 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
:zz:

This has to be like your "Jets suck" baiting posts. I know you're not this retarded.

And the Jets do suck. Even you are dumb enough not to believe that!

Coach Pants 03-11-2009 06:52 PM

I don't care if we let them all go or not. I think we should leave it up to the people of New York City to decide if they should be freed or not. Like I give a f.uck if that place is turned into a sheet of glass.

ateamstupid 03-11-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Jesus Joey, We are in charge, the govt there is the one that we installed, there is very little violence against us now. What do you call that? A loss?


http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/18/git...ees/index.html
Here is some more on the situation. From an "approved" source.

We've spent $2 trillion, we're less safe, we accomplished nothing, we've sent 5,000 of our soldiers to their graves, injured thousands more, killed 100,000+ civilians, and this is winning? Pass the evaluation sheet back Kissinger. Look up "pyrrhic victory", it'll describe your great triumph that our soldiers aren't getting killed by the hundreds anymore.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2009 06:54 PM

From the last link posted:


The 17 men are Uighurs, an ethnic group from western China. They are accused of receiving weapons and military training in Afghanistan.

Some of the detainees have been cleared for release since 2003, but the United States will not send them back to their homeland because of concern they would be tortured by Chinese authoriti
es.


of course WE should take them in right? Too bad for the Uighurs but I for one dont want them released in our country.

Coach Pants 03-11-2009 06:55 PM

...and hell, if the New Yorkers want them to be freed then leave Madoff on house arrest in the penthouse.

two birds one stone whatnot deal.

Danzig 03-11-2009 06:56 PM

since bush called this a war on terror, he wanted to treat every terrorist as an enemy combatant-but not as a soldier captured in a battle. it's a fine line....terrorists are criminals-they don't fight for a country, we're not fighting a germany for instance. so, those who are investigated, and then found to have committed, or are planning to commit, a crime should be charged under law-whether it's a u.s. law if they're caught here (much like if someone was here from canada, mexico, etc-they still fall under our court system) or an international law, or the country in which they resides' law. that's what everyone needs to figure out. if we follow a money trail, we have to hope we can persuade whatever country that terrorist resides in to arrest him. if they're here, or attempt to come here, we arrest them here. as for holding someone for years without a trial, you can't do that. yes, they're bad guys in many cases. so try them, or charge them and have the hague try them. but you can't just lock them up, no charges, and throw away the key. even the nazi war criminals got trials-that's what they must do in this case. absolutely lock the bad guys up-but you probably have to prove they're bad guys.

Payson Dave 03-11-2009 06:56 PM

A Centrist wants to promote what is best for society, tolerate what is good enough, and prevent what is harmful.

Conservatives want to promote what is best for society, and prevent everything else.

Liberals want to promote all options (except the truly dangerous ones) as equally good.

If your first reaction to this is, “Who is to say what is best?” you are a probably a liberal.

If your first reaction to this is, “Why settle for mediocrity?” you are probably a conservative.

If this bell-curve picture of the social options seems reasonable to you, and you have no principled objection to making discriminating judgments – welcome to the center. ...



Beau Weston

Cannon Shell 03-11-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
We've spent $2 trillion, we're less safe, we accomplished nothing, we've sent 5,000 of our soldiers to their graves, injured thousands more, killed 100,000+ civilians, and this is winning? Pass the evaluation sheet back Kissinger. Look up "pyrrhic victory", it'll describe your great triumph that our soldiers aren't getting killed by the hundreds anymore.

Look up Vietnam and tell me that we havent won. No one said that it is pretty. But the war strategy especially the troop surge was successful.
No one said it was a great victory but it wasnt a loss or poor war strategy. Poor post war strategy no doubt. there is a difference.

Coach Pants 03-11-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
We've spent $2 trillion, we're less safe, we accomplished nothing, we've sent 5,000 of our soldiers to their graves, injured thousands more, killed 100,000+ civilians, and this is winning? Pass the evaluation sheet back Kissinger. Look up "pyrrhic victory", it'll describe your great triumph that our soldiers aren't getting killed by the hundreds anymore.

The troop casualties are miniscule compared to prior wars.

Now I'll help you with your liberal agenda...

Talk about the soldiers coming back with real f.ucked up injuries.

Cannon Shell 03-11-2009 07:03 PM

The ironic part of this thread is what is contained in the original link. The thinking of the enemy yet there is such a rush to defend the "innocent" who may not even be innocent.

I have to admit that I don't lose a minute of sleep worrying about these people. I just wish that we had a facility closer to the arctic circle to store them in. As ice cubes. Thaw them out when we figure out what to do with them. or maybe we should just turn them loose in Cuba like Castro did to us. Kinda like a reverse Scarface.

SOREHOOF 03-11-2009 07:20 PM

The "world" is not looking out for AMERICA's best interests. As I said in a previous post, please send them to my house. I'm afraid the Govt. isn't looking out for America's best interest either.

pgardn 03-11-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Jesus Joey, We are in charge, the govt there is the one that we installed, there is very little violence against us now.

We are in charge of Afghanistan?
There is a government there?

There is a government in Kabul... not Afghanistan.

No one is in charge of that country.

Payson Dave 03-11-2009 07:26 PM

An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth...with the caveat that there be reasonable certainty that retribution is being served upon the deserving party as opposed to the truly innocent.... how many of the Gitmo detainees are truly innocent?... I have no idea

SOREHOOF 03-11-2009 07:29 PM

Why is everyone who wanted the troops out of Iraq turning a blind eye towards Afghanistan? Code Pink anyone?

pgardn 03-11-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
Why is everyone who wanted the troops out of Iraq turning a blind eye towards Afghanistan? Code Pink anyone?

No one is turning a blind eye.
It has turned out to be a giant frggn mess.
Just like it always has been for anyone trying
to tame this country of clans.

And it spills into Pakistan. Its scary.
Blind eye?


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