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Mike 02-09-2009 01:10 PM

Stunning, shocking documentary! Excellent report on the culture of pedophilia in the Roman Catholic Church

F.u.c.k. Ratzinger, and may the good Lord hasten him to hell

Mike 02-09-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
As a Catholic I find this completely offensive. Where is your proof that he is befriending pedophiles? Making him responsible for every action taken by a priest is completely wrong. And to get the facts straight read this:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/pop...025223422.html



Hell, I just read your counter-argument article and it sucks. The Pope takes no responsibility for anything, tells us to believe what he now says, not what he's done: says it has caused "great suffering to the church" putting the church's interests ahead of the individuals, and he says he has a difficult time understanding how this all came about.

Yet he wrote and enforced the policy of cover up and silence, and letting the pedophile continue on.

Sick f.u.c.k.s

Dellinger, I challenge you to find me a link to a web site anymore perverted than this crew

Mike 02-09-2009 01:25 PM

On Dellinger's Sydney Morning Herald source, from Wikipedia:

Historically, the SMH has been a conservative newspaper as evidenced by the fact that it did not endorse the Australian Labor Party at any election until 1984 or at a state election until 2003. Its parent company, Fairfax, is chaired by a high-profile former member of the Liberal party, Ron Walker.

The Sydney Morning Herald is historically credited with high standards of journalism; however, in recent years it has been accused of "dumbing down" editorial content, with more space allocated to larger photographs and lifestyle-based stories.[1]

dellinger63 02-09-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
On Dellinger's Sydney Morning Herald source, from Wikipedia:

Historically, the SMH has been a conservative newspaper as evidenced by the fact that it did not endorse the Australian Labor Party at any election until 1984 or at a state election until 2003. Its parent company, Fairfax, is chaired by a high-profile former member of the Liberal party, Ron Walker.

The Sydney Morning Herald is historically credited with high standards of journalism; however, in recent years it has been accused of "dumbing down" editorial content, with more space allocated to larger photographs and lifestyle-based stories.[1]

and your point is? You used the End Times who states Canada, Mexico and the U.S. are conspirators with 'the trialateral commission and the council of foreign relations' to form a new country forsaking the constitution and the Sovereignty of the US. Now that's one hell of a source!!!!

dellinger63 02-09-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
Hell, I just read your counter-argument article and it sucks. The Pope takes no responsibility for anything, tells us to believe what he now says, not what he's done: says it has caused "great suffering to the church" putting the church's interests ahead of the individuals, and he says he has a difficult time understanding how this all came about.

Yet he wrote and enforced the policy of cover up and silence, and letting the pedophile continue on.

Sick f.u.c.k.s

Dellinger, I challenge you to find me a link to a web site anymore perverted than this crew



MANBLA

Checkmate

dellinger63 02-09-2009 01:37 PM

they're too cowardly to have a website so try this one

http://www.godhatesfags.com/

and Mike I don't believe for a second you're Catholic or any other religion for that matter.

Danzig 02-09-2009 01:37 PM

what's manbla? i'm afraid to ask..have heard of nambla, is it similar?

Mike 02-09-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
and your point is? You used the End Times who states Canada, Mexico and the U.S. are conspirators with 'the trialateral commission and the council of foreign relations' to form a new country forsaking the constitution and the Sovereignty of the US. Now that's one hell of a source!!!!



I threw that referenced link out, dellinger, I didn't need it. Watch the BBC documentary, if you take issue, tell me. I've backed down and admitted I was in the wrong more than once before on this forum

dellinger63 02-09-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
what's manbla? i'm afraid to ask..have heard of nambla, is it similar?

Man Boy Love Association.

dellinger63 02-09-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
I threw that referenced link out, dellinger, I didn't need it. Watch the BBC documentary, if you take issue, tell me. I've backed down and admitted I was in the wrong more than once before on this forum

I can't watch it because I have a different media player and I could care less whether you admit your wrong or right. Damning a Pope and wishing him to hell was quite enough for me. Can't change ignorance or stupidity for that matter. I suspect you are very young or at least that is my hope.

Mike 02-09-2009 01:44 PM

It's NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association. It's a group tha t tries to justify, through rational argument, that it's okay for men to be a sexual mentor to a young boy. Guess it goes back to the days of Plato, the foundation of our modern thought


Was given last rites by Catholic priest at about 3 weeks old, had baptism and First Holy Communion, but not confirmation. Spent grades 1-4 in a Roman Catholic school taught by nuns.

Felt at an early age that the nuns were hypocrites

dellinger63 02-09-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
what's manbla? i'm afraid to ask..have heard of nambla, is it similar?

and very similar

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

dellinger63 02-09-2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
It's NAMBLA, the North American Man-Boy Love Association. It's a group tha t tries to justify, through rational argument, that it's okay for men to be a sexual mentor to a young boy. Guess it goes back to the days of Plato, the foundation of our modern thought

Was given last rites by Catholic priest at about 3 weeks old, had baptism and First Holy Communion, but not confirmation. Spent grades 1-4 in a Roman Catholic school taught by nuns.

Felt at an early age that the nuns were hypocrites

yea the foundation of modern thought. I'm sorry you were sexually abused. Get help. Life is to short to go thru it hating.

Mike 02-09-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I can't watch it because I have a different media player and I could care less whether you admit your wrong or right. Damning a Pope and wishing him to hell was quite enough for me. Can't change ignorance or stupidity for that matter. I suspect you are very young or at least that is my hope.


I'm 46 years old, studied some religion in college with a southern Baptist gay minister(Harvard educated and excellent)


There's a good documentary film, it's on Comcast cable television On Demand as a free movie often, called Capturing the Friedmans. It's home footage taken by a teenage son of a married man with family who is accused of child molestation as a private piano tutor. The kids back up dad, but the wife goes against him early. Great film into what a pedophile may look like to the outside world

Mike 02-09-2009 01:51 PM

Dellinger, I'm sorry, but I have to run to the handicapping of what's left of Fairgrounds. I opened the card hours ago

I'll try not to shock in order to offend in the future:o

Mike 02-09-2009 01:53 PM

Dell, I was never sexually abused:zz:

My wife' s father was sexually abused by a priest if that matters, but I caught on to the holier-than-thou's long ago

pgardn 02-09-2009 07:39 PM

Well it looks like he was unable to rehabilitate
the "Bishop" that believes the holocaust never happened.

This Pope has done an absolutely horrible PR job.
I am supposed to be Catholic, confirmed and all.
Went to a Catholic school K - 2nd. Was never abused.
Nuns slapped me with rulers, hurt some.

This Pope has John Paul turning cartwheels in heaven.
And not for fun. Rat man needs to come out and
apologize for some of the Catholic look the other way
tactics during the Holocaust. Just like John Paul did.

And I do agree with Dellinger that there are quite a few
priests that do nothing but give and are very good people.
The ones I have known. Ahh there was one really bad one,
but he liked the girls.

hi_im_god 02-09-2009 08:10 PM

i wonder why anyone is shocked that an organization that limits it's officer corps to those that are male, doctrinaire, and swear off sex is attractive to closeted homosexuals.

you'd be hard pressed to create a circumstance more attractive to maladjusted gay men than a seminary.

and i'm not saying all priest's are gay.

i'm just saying they all attended seminary with more than one who was.

Antitrust32 02-10-2009 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Well it looks like he was unable to rehabilitate
the "Bishop" that believes the holocaust never happened.

This Pope has done an absolutely horrible PR job.
I am supposed to be Catholic, confirmed and all.
Went to a Catholic school K - 2nd. Was never abused.
Nuns slapped me with rulers, hurt some.

This Pope has John Paul turning cartwheels in heaven.
And not for fun. Rat man needs to come out and
apologize for some of the Catholic look the other way
tactics during the Holocaust. Just like John Paul did.

And I do agree with Dellinger that there are quite a few
priests that do nothing but give and are very good people.
The ones I have known. Ahh there was one really bad one,
but he liked the girls.

John Paul was just as bad. Turned a blind eye to abuse. Happened under his watch.. its crazy to think he didnt know.

And I agree with Dell... most priests are great human beings. Only a small percentage are molesters. But the fact that those molesters were covered up by the Catholic church for so long and just moved to other churches is what was so wrong with John Paul.

Danzig 02-10-2009 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
John Paul was just as bad. Turned a blind eye to abuse. Happened under his watch.. its crazy to think he didnt know.

And I agree with Dell... most priests are great human beings. Only a small percentage are molesters. But the fact that those molesters were covered up by the Catholic church for so long and just moved to other churches is what was so wrong with John Paul.

many of the dioceses in which these abuses happened have declared bankruptcy, rather than pay to the victim-and the catholic church is one of the richest companies in the world. the last time i read about it, they were the largest property owner in america.


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