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SCUDSBROTHER 12-18-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i'll take him over "associates with terrorists" guy.

if you think this admin will be any more successful than the last by ignoring everyone with opposing views, you missed the most important lesson of the last 8 years.

rick warren is a symbolic gesture to evangelical's. i think this tells those willing to listen the door is open.

meanwhile, he appointed the lesbian deputy mayor of l.a. to a staff post.

i look at both moves and think, "there's hope". we don't have to all move into our respective corner's ready to come out swinging. maybe we can have a conversation in the middle.

He's a bigot. He put gay marriage on the same level as a guy marrying his sister. The interviewer gave him a chance to put it another way, and he didn't take that option. He asked him if it's on the same level, and he said yes. So, no, I don't understand how listening to that guy is "hope" or "change." It's pandering to bigots. I understand why he chose this way to do it(it's a weak group that is routinely thrown under the truck,) but I think it is not what his supporters thought he was about. This is his 1st mistake. I don't think he is aware of all the stuff the guy has said in interviews. There were surely other choices who hadn't said that their lifestyle is on the level of a brother and sister being married, or an old man being married to a kid.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-18-2008 08:08 PM

That's not a conversation in the middle. There is no way that Warren guy can get to the middle. McCain could get to the middle. Not this guy. Like I said, OBA is going too far over there (deep into the bigot section.)

hi_im_god 12-18-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
That's not a conversation in the middle. There is no way that Warren guy can get to the middle. McCain could get to the middle. Not this guy. Like I said, OBA is going too far over there (deep into the bigot section.)

i'll take your word on who can get to the middle from the right, arljim's word on who can get to the middle from the left, and anti's word on maintaing a heterosexual relationship.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-18-2008 08:53 PM

This is gunna be a big problem for him. He shouldn't of tolerated bigotry. I don't think he knew this guy's views well enough. Warren puts them on the level of pedophiles and people involved in incest. OBA stepped in major poo. I'm smart enough to know when somebody f's up. This is a fk up.

Coach Pants 12-18-2008 10:14 PM

Change I can believe in.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-18-2008 10:38 PM

He f'd up when he promised to recognize the Armenian Genocide, too. They're gunna make it very painful for him to do that. I'll bet anybody that he turns his back on that promise.

Antitrust32 12-19-2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i'll take your word on who can get to the middle from the right, arljim's word on who can get to the middle from the left, and anti's word on maintaing a heterosexual relationship.

lots of blow jobs and steak?

GPK 12-19-2008 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
lots of blow jobs and steak?

Who needs steak??

somerfrost 12-19-2008 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Who needs steak??

I'll gladly become a vegetarian!


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