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CSC 10-16-2008 08:13 AM

Goldikova's european form is very strong.

GPK 10-21-2008 10:27 AM

Anyone know much about Eagle Mountain?

cakes44 10-21-2008 10:29 AM

I know he'll be taking $$ of mine. 1 1/2 shouldn't be a problem for him, he's fresh as heck, and he's got class.

GPK 10-21-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
I know he'll be taking $$ of mine. 1 1/2 shouldn't be a problem for him, he's fresh as heck, and he's got class.


Obviously the trainer is one of the best. I will try and youtube some of his races later.

Handicappy 10-21-2008 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Don't they all enter to win for the most part? Shakis belongs in the race I suppose, I just don't think he has a shot.

I know. I do think he has a shot. It will be a firm turf course which he loves and they have him ready to run what will be his final race before going to Shadwell. It will be interesting and he will be running in the stretch.

Kasept 10-21-2008 09:25 PM

2nd (10:50) Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint

About 6 1/2 Furlongs (Downhill turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Heros Reward Castellano J J 126 L
2 Fleeting Spirit (IRE) Murtagh J P 120 L
3 True to Tradition Carmouche K 126 L
4 Only Answer (GB) Peslier O 123
5 Salute the Count Coa E M 126 L
6 Storm Treasure Bridgmohan S X 126 L
7 Rouse the Cat Prado E S 126 L
8 Diabolical Dettori L 126 L
9 Desert Code Migliore R 126 L
10 California Flag Talamo J 126 L
11 Idiot Proof Gomez G K 126 L
12 One Union Espinoza V 126 L
13 Get Funky Valdivia J Jr 126 L
14 Mr. Nightlinger Theriot H J II 126 L



4th (12:15) Breeders' Cup Mile (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 Shakis (IRE) Garcia Alan 126 L
2 Kip Deville Velasquez C 126 L
3 Precious Kitten Bejarano R 123 L
4 Goldikova (IRE) Peslier O 119
5 Daytona (IRE) Solis A 126 L
6 Awesome Gem Baze T C 126 L
7 U S Ranger Murtagh J P 126 L
8 Bold Chieftain Baze R A 126 L
9 War Monger Desormeaux K J 126 L
10 Thorn Song Albarado R J 126 L
11 Whatsthescript (IRE) Gomez G K 126 L


8th (3:00) Emirates Airlines Breeders' Cup Turf (G1)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $3,000,000

1 Better Talk Now Dominguez R A 126 L
2 Red Rocks (IRE) Dettori L 126 L
3 Grand Couturier (GB) Garcia Alan 126 L
4 Soldier of Fortune (IRE) Murtagh J P 126
5 Winchester Smullen P J 121 L
6 Dancing Forever Douglas R R 126 L
7 Red Rock Canyon (IRE) O'Donoghue Colm 126
8 Spring House Velazquez J R 126 L
9 Conduit (IRE) Moore R L 121
10 Out of Control (BRZ) Gomez G K 126 L
11 Eagle Mountain (GB) Shea K 126

asudevil 10-21-2008 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
He just missed behind Thorn Song.

Needs another 70 yards

brockguy 10-21-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Anyone know much about Eagle Mountain?

Kev, I think he could be a real suckers bet!!!

GPK 10-21-2008 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Kev, I think he could be a real suckers bet!!!


Thanks Kev.

slotdirt 10-23-2008 12:34 PM

What do folks think about Winchester? I just can't see it with all the other European options out there.

hockey2315 10-23-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
What do folks think about Winchester? I just can't see it with all the other European options out there.

My second biggest play of the weekend. I know he beat nothing in the Secretariat, but his effort was VERY visually impressive and pretty fast. If he improves off of that he'll be tough. Of course, we have no idea how he's been doing since that race or how he'll like the hard turf at Santa Anita, but 15-1 (I expect he'll get bet down a litte) is way too high.

philcski 10-23-2008 02:49 PM

Is it just me or is the Turf Sprint the absolute hardest race ever to figure?

brockguy 10-23-2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
What do folks think about Winchester? I just can't see it with all the other European options out there.

he'll probably be found out over a trip too far. I will be very reluctant to use him...

Hwjb 10-24-2008 04:02 AM

I can't profess to be au fait with many of the European horses running this year, let alone their American counterparts, but I have had a cursory look at a few of the races and felt that Conduit looked to have a really good chance in the Turf.

I remember another St Leger winner, Milan, running a fine race in this a few years ago, staying on dourly in pursuit of Fantastic Light, but reckon that Conduit is less a staying type than that one and is more likely to have the pace to stay in contention as the race is taking shape.
According to YouTube, at least, Grand Couturier is the horse I'd be most concerned about, his last success deeply impressive. But at 9/2 and 6/1 you can afford to have both on side.

Pedigree Ann 10-25-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Anyone know much about Eagle Mountain?

He fractured his pelvis; that's why he was off from October of last year. His comeback race was a good one, but the horses he beat weren't much. Mike de Kock, the trainer, was the best in South Africa and was a major force in Dubai, now in Britain. EM was second in the Derby last year, but was a distant 2rd, as was his third in the Irish Derby; I'm not certain he gets the full 12f. He certainly finishes closer to the front at 10f.

King Glorious 10-25-2008 11:48 AM

Turf Sprint
California Flag
Fleeting Spirit
True to Tradition
Salute the Count

Mile
Goldikova
Precious Kitten
Thorn Song
Kip Deville

Turf
Soldier of Fortune
Conduit
Eagle Mountain
Winchester

Danzig 10-25-2008 02:23 PM

what a move by the filly, goldikova. congrats on the win, beautifully done.


lol

a girl just beat dick dutrow. hehe

CSC 10-25-2008 02:25 PM

Makes you wonder how good Zarkava is, breathtaking performance. Wonderful filly in her own right.

GOLDIKOVA.

magic_idol 10-25-2008 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Makes you wonder how good Zarkava is, breathtaking performance. Wonderful filly in her own right.

GOLDIKOVA.


The time was amazing !!!!!! i was just contrasting different horses against that time & wow i would grudginly have to say that horse would kick our arse 1.33 for the 1600 group 2 won yesterday down under all they could run it in was 1.36 3 secs slower !!!

AeWingnut 10-25-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by magic_idol
The time was amazing !!!!!! i was just contrasting different horses against that time & wow i would grudginly have to say that horse would kick our arse 1.33 for the 1600 group 2 won yesterday down under all they could run it in was 1.36 3 secs slower !!!


the track at Santa Anita is typically lightning fast
but 3 seconds is huge


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