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MaTH716 09-26-2008 10:20 PM

Both candidates were good, I had a tough time keeping my eyes open through the whole thing. I thought McCain was very strong on foreign policy and national security. Obama seemed very green in those categories and even seemed a bit rattled at times. His inexpierence showed and McCain tried to hammer the point home. Especially about him not getting it about Iraq. Obama seemed to be better with the national financial agenda (but there was a lack of details by both men). He keeps trying to link Bush and McCain in the same boat (pretty good strategy). But, he just doesn't come off being believable/creditable to me (obviousally I am for McCain). Just too much slick lawyer jive. Also he is too concerned with America being liked around the world. Nobody likes us execpt when they need us to bail/help them out with some sort of problem. Then they want to be our friends.
Bottom line result for tonight, since no one really got into deep details about financial ideas and plans (bailout still coming and everything else is very vauge) and then the whole foreign policy/national security. I would say that it was a small win for McCain.

ateamstupid 09-26-2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Just too much slick lawyer jive.

Gee, wonder why you don't like Obama.

dalakhani 09-26-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
I am surprised both Palin and Biden were not in the audience...

they had Biden speak after the debate.

It was telling that McCain had an advisor named Wallace speak as opposed to Palin.

Coach Pants 09-26-2008 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Gee, wonder why you don't like Obama.

Don't be a jive turkey.

dalakhani 09-26-2008 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Don't be a jive turkey.

cracka

MaTH716 09-26-2008 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Gee, wonder why you don't like Obama.

It's really not like that. For a while I was hoping that McCain would take Condi Rice as his running mate. I think she is very intelligent and I think very highly of her. I thought see would have made a great VP and then would have been a very storng candidate for President in 4 years.
But obviously it is going to be tough enough for McCain to convince the public that he can change what has gone on for the last 8 years. Let alone having Bush's Sec. of State as his VP, so I understood that it just couldn't be.

dalakhani 09-26-2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
It's really not like that. For a while I was hoping that McCain would take Condi Rice as his running mate. I think she is very intelligent and I think very highly of her. I thought see would have made a great VP and then would have been a very storng candidate for President in 4 years.
But obviously it is going to be tough enough for McCain to convince the public that he can change what has gone on for the last 8 years. Let alone having Bush's Sec. of State as his VP, so I understood that it just couldn't be.

Its interesting that you say that. I watched Rice the other night on Hannity ( i was flipping through) and I was reminded once again how sharp she is. Too much baggage though. A shame. She is everything Palin is not.

GPK 09-26-2008 11:03 PM

Condi = Brown Sugah!!:{>: :{>:

Mortimer 09-27-2008 01:31 AM

Oh my God.

I finally realized who Palin sounds like...only not as smart.




Mrs. Lupner.

timmgirvan 09-27-2008 01:48 AM

Drudge Poll McCain 66% Obama 32%

ateamstupid 09-27-2008 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Drudge Poll McCain 66% Obama 32%

Every other ****ing poll taken: Obama beat McCain.

Not that I put much stock into these things or care, but you're ridiculous.

timmgirvan 09-27-2008 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Every other ****ing poll taken: Obama beat McCain.

Not that I put much stock into these things or care, but you're ridiculous.

You are full of ****! BBC had McCain....so did others! Stop whining and face the music.

ateamstupid 09-27-2008 01:59 AM

:zz:, here's an excerpt from a BBC article. What are you talking about..

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An immediate telephone poll by CNN and Opinion Research Corp found 51% said Mr Obama had done the better job, to 38% for Mr McCain.

A poll of uncommitted voters by CBS News found that 39% gave Mr Obama victory, 25% thought John McCain had won, and 36% thought it was a draw.
Again, these polls are meaningless, but again, you put forth a lame attempt to make it seem like Grandpa Munster somehow won handily. Drudge Report readers say McCain won? Wow! Fascinating! I can't possibly imagine who Huffington Post readers liked better!

It's too late and there's too good of a day of racing tomorrow to entertain a political tool like you all night. Peace.

timmgirvan 09-27-2008 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
:zz:, here's an excerpt from a BBC article. What are you talking about..



Again, these polls are meaningless, but again, you put forth a lame attempt to make it seem like Grandpa Munster somehow won handily. Drudge Report readers say McCain won? Wow! Fascinating! I can't possibly imagine who Huffington Post readers liked better!

It's too late and there's too good of a day of racing tomorrow to entertain a political tool like you all night. Peace.

Drudge is hardly a conservative forum....but continue on with your drivel. Such a waste...seemed like you were turning it around too!

Samarta 09-27-2008 06:07 AM

I thought an obviously very nervous Obama might have gotten the best of it but I can't get past the fact that McCain is as bad or worse than what we have now from a public speaking ability and Obama was so nervous he called McCain "Tom, Joe, and Jim" Why couldn't he get his friggin name right. Where are his speaking advisors.....call him Senator McCain for god sake and you won't mess his name up 50 times next time!!!

dalakhani 09-27-2008 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Drudge is hardly a conservative forum....but continue on with your drivel. Such a waste...seemed like you were turning it around too!

Why do you continue post things that are devoid of fact or thought? Drudge is the same place that created a picture of Obama dressed as a terrorist.

This is not quite as dumb as saying the holocaust had nothig to do with religiion, but it certainly belongs as another entry on your list.

herkhorse 09-27-2008 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Drudge is hardly a conservative forum....but continue on with your drivel. Such a waste...seemed like you were turning it around too!

Umm, yes it is.

herkhorse 09-27-2008 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Oh my God.

I finally realized who Palin sounds like...only not as smart.




Mrs. Lupner.

:tro: And next Thursday is comedy night

MaTH716 09-27-2008 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Samarta
I thought an obviously very nervous Obama might have gotten the best of it but I can't get past the fact that McCain is as bad or worse than what we have now from a public speaking ability and Obama was so nervous he called McCain "Tom, Joe, and Jim" Why couldn't he get his friggin name right. Where are his speaking advisors.....call him Senator McCain for god sake and you won't mess his name up 50 times next time!!!

First thing is that nobody is worse than Bush at speaking. I agree that McCain isn't the best speaker in the world (and he is up against a guy who is very polished, so it makes him look even worse), but I thought he did well last night. He was calm, made his points and reinforced how Obama just didn't get it about Iraq. He also didn't make faces and try to jump in before his time, like Obama constantly did all night(I thought he looked and came off foolish [obviously I am a bit biased and probably nit picking a bit]). Like I said, I thought it was a small victory for McCain, but really not big/strong enough to sway any undecided voters or steal anyone from the Obama camp.

Mag 09-27-2008 09:04 AM

Any qualms I had about Obama are now gone. A very smart, forward-thinking gentleman who's not afraid to look his opponent in the eye. I like how he recognizes that the USA is not the only country in the world, and I much prefer diplomacy over war. McCain comes across like a 20th century war monger. We need to move on from that mindset (besides, we can't afford it).


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