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kgar311 07-24-2008 02:57 PM

woooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaa just opened even money

zippyneedsawin 07-24-2008 03:11 PM

he may win, but no way for me at 1-1.

I'll use the 1,3 on top.

SniperSB23 07-24-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
he may win, but no way for me at 1-1.

I'll use the 1,3 on top.

He won't win at 1-1, 10-1, or 100-1.

dalakhani 07-24-2008 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgar311
woooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaa just opened even money


Looks like you were right about his price. 9/5 with 3 minutes to post.

Still like street magician

Good luck.

SniperSB23 07-24-2008 03:26 PM

Unreal, 21.62 on that track. Looking forward to betting against him in the King's Bishop.

kgar311 07-24-2008 03:33 PM

Plain and simple thats the odds maker playing games. The track should be ashamed of themselves for letting that happen.

Coach Pants 07-24-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgar311
Plain and simple thats the odds maker playing games. The track should be ashamed of themselves for letting that happen.

Not to mention 3 idiots setting it up for a closer.

Bobby Fischer 07-24-2008 03:41 PM

can only guess what odds Visionaire gets if the top 2 ml favs aren't scratched...

He was best. Visionaire ran through the track bias even with the pace setting up for him. The 1 and 8 should have quit out of the trifecta.

Bigsmc 07-24-2008 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgar311
Plain and simple thats the odds maker playing games. The track should be ashamed of themselves for letting that happen.

:rolleyes:

XIIPointStables 07-24-2008 03:48 PM

Maybe he just wasn't good enough, but I thought Albarado should have backed off the early pace duel with Out of Gwedda. He was going to sit right off those leaders. Held on for third, but thought e could have won.

kgar311 07-24-2008 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
:rolleyes:

GAMES i tell you GAMES

Gander 07-24-2008 04:03 PM

I liked Street Magician too, but I thought he had every chance to win if he was good enough, which he wasnt. He hung just like Temecula Creek. Both looked like winners at different points in the stretch, both hung like healthy ferns.

Rupert Pupkin 07-25-2008 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
can only guess what odds Visionaire gets if the top 2 ml favs aren't scratched...

He was best. Visionaire ran through the track bias even with the pace setting up for him. The 1 and 8 should have quit out of the trifecta.

If the favorite and second choice don't scratch, I think Visionaire would have been about 4-1 or 9-2. I actually think the morning-line was reasonable. You had a pretty good 3 year old who appeared to be a router taking on some hard-knocking older spriners in a sprint race. I think 6-1 was a reasonable morning-line before the scratches. I would have probably made him slightly lower. I would have probably made him 5-1 before the scratches. After the scratches, I would have made him about 5-2 or so.

Halfbridled 07-25-2008 10:57 AM

Half way through the stretch he looked like he was going to fade to last. I was actually thinking he would be one of those horses that would just disappear into oblivion after the Derby, and then he powered through to win! I was impressed, but I'm not at all confident about his chances in the Bishop!


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