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pgardn 06-07-2008 12:57 PM

You guys dont play enough video games.

This is how I feel when I attempt to play,
become completely disoriented,
and then I am immediately blown up by
some teenager who plays the controller
like a master typist on a keyboard.

Cannon Shell 06-07-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Maybe it's just our ignorance to what others think of the game? Or what they're looking for?

I haven't seen a race yet, so let me toss that in here, however, this dying need for the typical pan shot by racing fans on ESPN is lame.

How about this -- no viewers -- no ESPN -- then how would we feel? There would be no camera angles to show.

What difference does it make what others think? Is someone turning in for camera angles? If they started showing NFL games from the blimp would non fans start watching? If they showed Red Sox games from the top of the Green monster would that be cool? Maybe for one pitch but people want to watch the races or see the games. When you make 17 cuts in a race that is just over a minute long you either have ADD or you are doing way too much.

ArlJim78 06-07-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I just got to the booth and will watch the fifth race and see what it's all about.

I just know that a friend of mine who has a brother not at all interested in racing made comments about how he could get into it more with the cool camera angles they showed for Dubai's racing coverage.

watch a race first then before commenting. it BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!

its not the different angles per se, its that they present it in a rapid fire way so the viewer gets no perspective of the race.
right idea, but wrong implementation.

TheSpyder 06-07-2008 01:08 PM





As someone said, the camera angles are fine if they didn't have some director that's acting like a chimp on speed.

Travis Stone 06-07-2008 01:10 PM

I'm going to check it out.

Every year its the same old drivel that people want to see the pan shot on ESPN... but they're not in "that" business. If they were, they'd just rip NYRA's simulcast feed and show it.

The rapid fire changing of camera angles I mis-read to mean the various angles, so I'll check it out.

But in the grand scheme of things, we should be thankful ESPN is willing to devote so much time. In the end, it's a win-win.

SniperSB23 06-07-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I'm going to check it out.

Every year its the same old drivel that people want to see the pan shot on ESPN... but they're not in "that" business. If they were, they'd just rip NYRA's simulcast feed and show it.

The rapid fire changing of camera angles I mis-read to mean the various angles, so I'll check it out.

But in the grand scheme of things, we should be thankful ESPN is willing to devote so much time. In the end, it's a win-win.

Yeah, watch some races with it. I don't mind the concept at all for ESPN but it is being implemented very poorly.

Danzig 06-07-2008 01:40 PM

someone mentioned the dubai cameras. the one on the truck running just ahead of the horses is a good one.
however, the races aren't that long, so trying to show many different angles will only result in a chopped up, nausea-inducing dizzying mess--continuity and close ups would be the key here.
this isn't nascar-they can't cover it the same way, there are no single sponsors demanding air time

cowgirlintexas 06-07-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I'm hoping they show Big Brown bucking in the stall during the far turn of the 3rd. Maybe show P. Diddy posing like a douchebag at the sixteenth pole.

Just saw them show B.B buckin in the stall..(just gettin home) Wow! Is he ready to annihilate this field or what?!! :eek:

cowgirlintexas 06-07-2008 01:58 PM

WTF was that? All of a sudden a golf game/commercial?

TheSpyder 06-07-2008 01:58 PM

OK that's a new angle...OF A GOLF COURSE. Get that monkey off the controls!

Spyder

TheSpyder 06-07-2008 01:58 PM

Man, you type fast woman, how'd you beat me?
Quote:

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
WTF was that? All of a sudden a golf game/commercial?


TheSpyder 06-07-2008 02:04 PM

Must have fired the director as they showed the race the usual way. Someone must have said something.

Spyder

Coach Pants 06-07-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
Just saw them show B.B buckin in the stall..(just gettin home) Wow! Is he ready to annihilate this field or what?!! :eek:

I hope so. Got a bad feeling about this one.

Storm Cadet 06-07-2008 03:08 PM

WHERE THE HELL IS JEANINE EDWARDS????? :mad:

Merlinsky 06-07-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Storm Cadet
WHERE THE HELL IS JEANINE EDWARDS????? :mad:

She's around. It's been a few minutes but might be taking the time off like the other guys and coming back to ABC later on. She talked about how BB was freaking out in the stall for a little bit. After that I don't remember when I last saw her.

Ok about the Secretariat replay for Zito, what the heck was that? I mean there's a fast forward button sure but I thought you weren't supposed to do that crap manually while it was airing. It's as if they were running a clip from YouTube and personally holding the little button and shifting it forward only to have it get stuck because it hadn't finished loading yet.

Storm Cadet 06-07-2008 03:13 PM

saw her at Belmont yesterday, she's one skinny woman. She has definitely dropped some since I last saw her in person but oh so good looking :{>:

westcoastinvader 06-07-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Storm Cadet
saw her at Belmont yesterday, she's one skinny woman. She has definitely dropped some since I last saw her in person but oh so good looking :{>:

Nice touch to do the Jim McKay retro at the intro of the cutover to ABC...

Thus far no mention of the Belmont plumbing problems today posted in the other thread....

Storm Cadet 06-07-2008 04:21 PM

no way would they mention it in deference to NYRA hosts.

They are really trying to hype racing, no bad press today!

Gotta luv Shaq daddy in the jockey outfit for mineral water!

Storm Cadet 06-07-2008 04:31 PM

Durkin said all facilities are now open! Tough holding it in:p

westcoastinvader 06-07-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Storm Cadet
Durkin said all facilities are now open! Tough holding it in:p

I've got the telecast burning on DVD.

I'm sure most of us racing fans have some recording going, just in case we see the first Triple Crown winner in 30 years....

If not, I'd recommend it.


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