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GPK 03-02-2008 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Scav
Re: Mike Mitchell....Now, I am the last person to come to a defense of an assumed drugger, but I got curious after reading this, especially given that you chased that damn horse ever race that he has ran in. I looked on www.chrb.ca.gov under admin hearings, which is where they post all drug positives and fines. Mitchell has recieved ZERO at Del Mar, 3 at Hollywood since 2004 (one of them for meds) and 4 at Santa Anita (one for meds). He got fined for failure to report a gelded horse (my guess is that this can be considered common), one for entering an non-eligible horse, and two for milkshaking the horse.

Now, I am most definitely not saying that he is a saint, but given that they haven't caught this guy with a serious positive, I might become more inclined in his ability.

Im more inclined to believe the person that told me he was a cheat.

Honestly...how many guys move up turf horses off Mott?

Scav 03-02-2008 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Im more inclined to believe the person that told me he was a cheat.

Honestly...how many guys move up turf horses off Mott?
Oh easy 'inside information on the net' guy...

I wasn't saying he wasn't one, just saying that the evidence isn't there as far as convictions

GPK 03-02-2008 02:37 PM
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Oh easy 'inside information on the net' guy...

I wasn't saying he wasn't one, just saying that the evidence isn't there as far as convictions

who said anything about the net?


Do you know who I am?

Scav 03-02-2008 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
who said anything about the net?


Do you know who I am?
I don't care if you were Pope John the 8 million, Willie Shoemaker, or the black Jesus Christ...

freddymo 03-02-2008 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Im more inclined to believe the person that told me he was a cheat.

Honestly...how many guys move up turf horses off Mott?
Wolfson, Mapproval

Bobby Fischer 03-02-2008 03:14 PM
Mitchell is a better horseman than most of his competition, he also is very good with horses who have pain or injuries. He also has a good eye at finding a horse who has talent but is limited or even innactive due to pain or injuries. Also good with and prefers runners/jockeys who finish races willingly. Whatever methods he uses to get these animals pain-free, or whether horses with problems should be running 110% is up to you guys to figure out.

freddymo 03-02-2008 03:17 PM
Ramon perhaps if the horse was 25 lengths off the lead instead of 40 I would have won a ton of american dollars. Ramon go home I have no clue why Frankel loves this guy so much?

GPK 03-02-2008 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo
Wolfson, Mapproval

touche'

freddymo 03-02-2008 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
touche'
When you cheat less it's harder to win.

Speaking of which I am thinking about Pitching Game Face as Pletchers juice cycle seems to have peaked..lol


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