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blackthroatedwind 02-07-2008 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
I assume you are referring to someone else, because I missed the part where I was critical of NYRA in my post. I like the contest and play it (on a voluntary basis, mind you) when I can. I thought the start date was interesting/funny considering the deadline that was set. Anyone who entered and thought NYRA would 'take their money and run' is a bit naive or just cynical.
Call it what you want but you were making a joke without thinking it through.

The timing is obvious if you think about it. By making the start day February 14th it won't be interrupted....it will either start...or not.

zippyneedsawin 02-07-2008 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Call it what you want but you were making a joke

Yes, making a joke. Lighten up, Francis.

blackthroatedwind 02-07-2008 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
Yes, making a joke. Lighten up, Francis.
Grow up.

zippyneedsawin 02-07-2008 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Grow up.
Look who's talking. I put up a post joking about a contest and you make a smug response with false assumptions. I expected joking responses like the one posted by HHH. Seriously, it's too early in the morning to be wound that tight. Let's move on.

By the way, I'm hearing a deal may actually be announced today. I'm holding my breath in anticipation.

blackthroatedwind 02-07-2008 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
Look who's talking. I put up a post joking about a contest and you make a smug response with false assumptions. I expected joking responses like the one posted by HHH. Seriously, it's too early in the morning to be wound that tight. Let's move on.

By the way, I'm hearing a deal may actually be announced today. I'm holding my breath in anticipation.

Oh, I get it, you don't like it that I pointed out why there was a February 14th deadline, so you drag out the tired " lighten up Francis " line.

If you don't like that people respond to your posts, whether you are joking or serious, I don't understand why you post.

You were right, however, I wasn't specifically responding to you with my general comments. And, for what it's worth, I'm also a big fan of " Stripes. "

zippyneedsawin 02-07-2008 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
for what it's worth, I'm also a big fan of " Stripes. "
Well, at least we have that in common.

Hey, of course I expect responses to posts(mine or others). I was just trying to clarify what I felt was a false assumption. I do understand the deadline timing, that's why I was kidding with it. No worries.

whodey17 02-07-2008 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ELA
Personally, I don't think it's blame at all. Was NYRA completely innocent of wrongdoing, poor management, and other things as well? Of course not. However, have they always been guilty of same? No, certainly not. I've been a critic of NYRA for a long time, on many specific issues where they were certainly wrong. They were guilty on the horsemen's purse account, and how that entire situation was addressed and handled. However, I've also been a critic of the NYTHA and I am a horse owner. However, that's not blame.

In understanding the business and being part of it, I think it's also important to understand the nature of the business, the business model, and more. Being in the business you can look at the business both vocationally and advocationally.

It worked before, and it will work again. Of course NY racing can be so much better. It can be the best in the industry. The fiscal shortcomings of NYRA -- are in fact the fiscal shortcomings of the industry and business model in NY.

Eric
Agree--nice post.

parsixfarms 02-07-2008 11:59 AM
The problem with this whole process is that there has been absolutely ZERO transparency regarding the issues involved. While I know that the parties can't be expected to "publicly" negotiate the agreement, without knowing the respective bargaining positions of the parties involved, it's virtually impossible to know who's right and wrong at this time.

Based on his ridiculous proposals in the past, my instincts strongly suggest that it's been Bruno - who can care less about the horsemen, unless they continue to contribute to his political coffers - who has single-handedly been at fault over the past few months. If the sticking point is the composition of the NYRA board, however, I'm a little less sympathetic to NYRA's position if, as reported, the proposed deal will enable NYRA to maintain a majority (11 of 21) of the seats on a reconstituted Board.

sumitas 02-07-2008 12:09 PM
If Bruno is doing something positive for NY horsemen I think that's a good thing. You don't hear much from NY horsemen and they deserve a big slice of the pie.

blackthroatedwind 02-07-2008 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sumitas
If Bruno is doing something positive for NY horsemen I think that's a good thing. You don't hear much from NY horsemen and they deserve a big slice of the pie.

Since when don't they?

pgiaco 02-07-2008 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sumitas
If Bruno is doing something positive for NY horsemen I think that's a good thing. You don't hear much from NY horsemen and they deserve a big slice of the pie.
If Bruno is doing something positive for NY horsemen I'd like to know what it is. He can start by leaving office.

Kasept 02-07-2008 08:26 PM
Slight movement today while Bruno spews new bile and invective.. He is as odious and vile a public official as I've seen in my life.


HEGARTY: Deal inches forward amidst wrangling
http://www.drf.com/news/article/92141.html

B-H: Bruno decries NYRA 'scare tactics'
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43548

Hickory Hill Hoff 02-07-2008 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
Slight movement today while Bruno spews new bile and invective.. He is as odious and vile a public official as I've seen in my life.


HEGARTY: Deal inches forward amidst wrangling
http://www.drf.com/news/article/92141.html

B-H: Bruno decries NYRA 'scare tactics'
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43548
You haven't been to the county I live in.....quite a few fit that description.

Cajungator26 02-07-2008 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
Slight movement today while Bruno spews new bile and invective.. He is as odious and vile a public official as I've seen in my life.


HEGARTY: Deal inches forward amidst wrangling
http://www.drf.com/news/article/92141.html

B-H: Bruno decries NYRA 'scare tactics'
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=43548
Time to bring out the dictionary. ;)

Hickory Hill Hoff 02-07-2008 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Time to bring out the dictionary. ;)
Steve is putting it nicer than I would :eek:

Cajungator26 02-07-2008 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Steve is putting it nicer than I would :eek:
He's definitely not garrulous. He chooses his words very carefully.

Hickory Hill Hoff 02-07-2008 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
He's definitely not garrulous. He chooses his words very carefully.
Where's the dictionary? :D yes, the key word is carefully.


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