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Originally Posted by Magnanimous

Just to let you know, NYRA is not racing ("nyra is and allways will be the most important racing in the country"). NYRA is just the group that runs racing. Any idiot could run NY racing. The amount of money wagered in NY is what makes NY racing and this is primarily because incomes are higher and handle means nothing if you just keep losing money like NYRA does.

Who would you rather see run New York Racing? Magna, Churchill Downs, Capital Play or some other entity?

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Originally Posted by Magnanimous

Also, CA racing is great all year long. In NY you have Aqueduct which is some of the worst racing in the country. It is a conveyor belt and is riddled with corruption. I would say Saratoga is the best meet, but not because of NYRA. Belmont is probably the 4th best meet. So NY racing is excellent but to say it is the best is pushing it. It is the best if you take out Aqueduct but last I checked Aqueduct still exists.

And the California Tracks aren't Conveyer Belts. What corruption is going on at Aqueduct, and please don't insult my intellignce (or other board members) by quoting some BS articles that are nothing more than self promoting proaganda.

Also how is the success at Saratoga not a result of NYRA? As I recall that track was struggling for years before NYRA managed to make it a Racing Destination. I assume this had nothing to do with the advertising and promotion performed by Schwartz's son in-laws firm, it was purely coincidence and timing.

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Originally Posted by Magnanimous

As for the soap opera in NY, if the corrupt NYRA and corrupt politicians would just give NYRA a 5 year deal it would be fine.

Why would NYRA accept a 5 year deal unless they we're alloweed to retain title to the land that the tracks are on? A 5 year deal is nonsensical for all parties involved. Do you really want to be going through this ordeal in another 5 years?

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Originally Posted by Magnanimous

But please explain to me why a group with a past full of corruption and a present with bankruptcy after bankrupcy deserves a 30 year deal.

As of now they are THE BEST alternative to run racing in the Great State of New York.

An to think that I used to think that New Jersey politicains were the best (That $ could buy.) Now I know NY has the best politicians that $ can buy. I am embarassed for the residents of NY.

A question. As I'm in London the only American channels with news programmes I get are Fox News and CNN (and that's the International version of CNN)

What coverage is this getting on channels like Fox's local New York Station, the other Networks local stations and the New York City news equivalent to Channel 9 in Saratoga?

And if it isn't getting enough coverage-shouldn't we do something about it?

nyra threads are important, as otherwise some members here would never get in a conversation.

seriously tho, the nyra situation is huge news, and will have a tremendous impact on the industry. it's not just a local or state issue, but has national ramifications.

May Go to AQU on the 31st Just to Say

I saw it before it's gone. No citizen is safe when State legislators are in session...:(

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Originally Posted by infield_line

I saw it before it's gone. No citizen is safe when State legislators are in session...:(

There is no racing on Monday the 31st.

Right......thanks

maybe Bruno will start fields of substitute horses :) . remember that wacky baseball strike ?

2. If country club memberships and entertainmenmt expenses are corrupt, then every corporatation in America is corrupt.

Umm Steve? Its an FN Non Profit corp. with millions tax liabilities and crys the blues that it needs capital. It's not someones personnel nickel that they invested, took capital risk and are taking a shot to avoid using pre tax dollars.. Big difference IMO... BTW perhaps your boys took you to play golf? How did you play?

"Also how is the success at Saratoga not a result of NYRA? As I recall that track was struggling for years before NYRA managed to make it a Racing Destination. I assume this had nothing to do with the advertising and promotion performed by Schwartz's son in-laws firm, it was purely coincidence and timing."

Hacker I think Saratoga's success is much more to do with Whitney and friends as it is NYRA. Without certain folks making SPA a fashionable 60 day retreat it might have become Vernon Downs.. That might be a bit of a stretch