The number of starters have been fairly consistent.

I just checked his maidens in the last 30 days and while the results at the spa were below par he is 23% with all maidens. His top tier maidens appear to be below par. The graded stakes and allowance runners have been underperforming more so than his maidens.
I'd be alarmed if I was him but his itm % for graded stakes in the last 30 days is 50% so it's not as if they're running too poorly.

sorry...looking at the wrong column there.


Damn Miller Lite...

well ill jump on this..

a. his go to guy jv has been riding as if hes abit off ..sence his spills..

b. too many horses under his care .. micro managing 4 diffrent strings gets old
after so much success he may be letting his guys make more of the calls locally

c allday on vacation :eek: :D after some vets have gotten busted maybee the "extra attention" is lacking..

on a side note the non take down of the two at belmont was laughable...

He was second with Rags to Riches at 2:5, second with Fairbanks at 3:5, second with Octave at 2:5, won with Any Given Saturday at 1:9 and finished fifth with The Leopard at 5:2.

He was 70 % to win with two of the horses, 82% with another, 62% with another and 25% with another.....and managed one win. His theorietical equity was around three wins. In these cases, at least, his ITM percentage is not relevent.

No doubt about it. There should be cause for concern.

Well, maybe after winning with a seemingly higher than expected number of horses for so long it's not shocking that things have evened out some lately. However, after such good results for so long it's surprising to see so many horses underperforming.

I have not read this whole thread, pardon me if I repeat someone...

TP has dropped off in NY but in Jersey and Illinois he's maintained his usual figs. Has he changed help? Has the question of the condition of the racing/training surfaces been brought up?
Something clearly is amiss with the "A Team" that's based in NY. His numbers ot the elite level declined even while his stable has grown. To me that says theat they are getting hurt between races or before their debut. The condition of the tracks has been a hot button issue for horsemen and though Todd has not been extremely vocal, even in the wake of Rag's injury, I have to assume that it's playing a role.

Cardus: Yep, it was discussed regularly on the Spa backstretch and I'd guess it's still a topic of chat at Belmont.
BTW: I agree with your premise, but the The Leopard at anything less than 5-1 was a joke. Esp. after seeing Immortal Eyes choke in the Belmont MSW.

Bear Now ran big as expected. Again I understand why Octave was the favorite but this one was more likely to go this way than not.

The fact that Octave got second was a small dissapointment but the Win price on Bear Now was quite frankly stunning as a return.

red boarder...lol

Trainers have been complaining about Passero sealing the track too much, and its effects on the surface, for years now. It is only now getting attention.....and hopefully the situation is being rectified. But, it's been an ongoing problem since he came to NY.

Good to see you weren't swept away by the storm.......

Yes predicting a winner 3 dys prior to the race is red boarding!!!

Didn't play much today I need to take what I can get....

Oh yeah....Todd doesn't like Delaware either Andy doesn't ship there as much as the other slot fueled tracks...and even less since the curse was layed on him.....

congrats

I hate when that happens too!! :eek:

The supply of cobra venom is low right now.