I only noticed him insulting some Andy Sterling guy.

Yeah, that poor innocent guy keeps getting his name dragged through the mud because of me.

Please point out where in my original post I stated that I was "pretty sure he could win the Mile"?


I simply ask that IF he won the Mile as opposed to placing in the Classic wouldn't that make him unique? What good does it do for him to run 2nd, 3rd or even worse in another mile and a quarter race. He's already done that, multiple times.

He has?

i think they should transfer hard spun to ron ellis and run him in the bc juvie.

Well he ran 2nd in the Derby at a mile and a quarter and 3rd in the Preakness at a mile and three-sixteeths. Just for kicks, he ran 4th in the Belmont at a mile and a half. No?

Is there any chance they would put him in the Sprint?

Okay, no problem. Let's put it this way, as a Hard Spun fan who probably thinks more of him than most, I think he has a better shot at winning the Mile than the Classic, because sadly I don't feel he has much of a shot of winning the Classic.

Won't Monmouth favor Hard Spun's racing style more so than any other track he has raced on?...and won't it tend to dis-favor Street Sense?

It didn't look to help him in the Haskell as AGS blew right by, at a 1 1/8th.

True very true..and I was extremely happy as I bet AGS that day..as I recall HS bobbled start a bit..on BC day I would tell Pino to send send send and see what happens...

I like the horse also but think he is up against it in either race. frankly at Monmouth I'd give him a better chance of pulling off the classic than I would seeing him make his turf debut and win the mile.

even though I think he might be best at 8 or 9 furlongs, I kinda agree with what DrugS has said before and that is that his best shot is to just put him on dirt in the classic and send him out there, use his speed and make everyone work out trips and come get him.

Larry was on ATR yesterday...unless I missed something it sounded like he was 100% heading to the Classic ...

agree with the comment that says send him and make the other figure out how to beat him...his speed is his best asset and the Kings Bishop proved his gameness..

Everyone is an arm chair trainer
 

I remember when everyone was crying about HS pre derby work.
He might beat all the 3yos in the BC Classic.


We should send him to Pletcher and Allday, and create a turf god in Sunriver's image.


The big guy is about to retire. You need to develop form to win a grass race. The mile70yards is beneath him. The sprint is too quick. Yes he would be better in The Classic as a 4yo, but this is Hard Spun's last run. No time for that.

While u recall Peace Rules and Favorite Trick, I think about Prized and War Chant. Prized won the BC Turf in his first start on the grass and War Chant won the BC Mile in his second start on grass, after having won the Oak Tree Mile in his grass debut. What about Lure? I am not sure but I think he made his grass debut in the Kelso (2nd) and then won the BC Mile. My point is that if a horse has the talent to do something, it won't matter if it's his first, second, or 20th time on the surface. If the distance of the Mile is his best distance, go for it. I can see him taking the same kind of tactics as Lure and wiring them.

If, however, the choice is between the Sprint, Dirt Mile or Classic, I'd go in the Classic. I agree that his best performance and best chance for a placing will come by jumping out there and making the others adjust to him. The others could make the assumption that he can't last and let Hard Spun coast on the lead just long enough to get brave enough to hold on. I don't think he's got the speed necessary to run with the best sprinters in the world early and I think it would be tougher holding off the best closers in a sprint than it was holding out First Defence.