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ShadowRoll 07-08-2007 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Initially, he would cover some mares and totally reject others, without rhyme or reason; no pattern could be detected in which he would mate with and which he would reject - not color, not markings, not experience (maiden mares vs veterans). He just liked some mares and didn't like others. That's why he has some foals on the ground.

The vet that comes up with horsey Viagra will make a million.

Mortimer 07-08-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowRoll
The vet that comes up with horsey Viagra will make a million.


A-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bless me father for I have sinned.I laughed heartily at a Dardin post Sunday night.




Which one was that?



The one about hosrey viagra.




You're kidding me.





No...afraid not.





I almost barfed my ham sandwich on that one...this is very bad.






I know father. I am prepared for my deserved penance.










You must make 20 visits to Diaper's myspace.......and 30 to A Ryan's...King of Junger.










WHAT!!!????







DO NOT QUESTION ME!






Sorry father....ok.





( Phooey!!)

robfla 07-08-2007 08:38 PM

robfla!!!

Danzig 07-08-2007 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
Initially, he would cover some mares and totally reject others, without rhyme or reason; no pattern could be detected in which he would mate with and which he would reject - not color, not markings, not experience (maiden mares vs veterans). He just liked some mares and didn't like others. That's why he has some foals on the ground.

yeah, i kept up with the stories--seems he would go with a few, so they'd bring them in, get him riled up and then throw in a sub. but there's got to be something else going on there.

Mortimer 07-08-2007 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla
robfla!!!


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thud

Cajungator26 07-08-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Probably cant produce his own testosterone after all his steroids

Sound familiar?

Mortimer 07-08-2007 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I award this 8 pies. OOO.5





Thank you so much....you have the Phooey(StevieBogs) Decimal System down very well sir!!

Merlinsky 07-08-2007 09:02 PM

Did they try sending the ones he liked the first time back to him? You can't make a career out of that because no mare owner would want 10 War Emblem foals from the same mare but it could buy you another season. If he rejects one he liked before then I dunno.

Not sure he should go straight to Old Friends. The supreme irony would be if Coolmore's division got him, being as they like to shoot for 200 foals it seems like. I guess whoever it is has to be big enough to afford him and handle His Royal Nastiness but small enough to devote the time and energy. Hmm..

letswastemoney 07-08-2007 09:02 PM

Maybe he just prefers American fillies :D

Danzig 07-09-2007 03:39 AM

http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=39686

well, no wonder war emblem gave them a hard time! this is outrageous, to cover that many mares in a season!

zippyneedsawin 07-09-2007 08:11 AM

maybe they should get War Emblem a little drunk before he covers mares.. I know the ole' beer goggles have helped lots of people get a little.

Pedigree Ann 07-09-2007 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
"Deep Impact Bred to About 230 mares in First Season"
well, no wonder war emblem gave them a hard time! this is outrageous, to cover that many mares in a season!

A stallion has to 'stop' his mares on the first cover every time is he is going to get such a huge number of them in foal. That means the vets have to be exactly right about whether the mare has a follicle that is ready or not as well as the stallion being extremely fertile. And it becomes grueling work, having to cover mares 3 or4 times a day. If he won't be shuttling (and I doubt the Japanese will ever let him out of the country), then he may have time to recover his strength for next year.

This was George Washington's problem, by the way. Coolmore has the philosophy that he's got to stop them the first cover so they can rake in the big bucks (more fees for more mares). But GW was not co-operating; he got some in foal on the first cover but would probably need a second or third for the rest. Back when 40-foal crops were the norm, the farm could do that and still get the fee, but these days they demand volume.

Swap Fliparoo 07-09-2007 01:27 PM

I'm sure there will be a couple of U.S. farms interested in working with him if he comes cheap enough.

When that (likely) fails, then Old Friends is well equipped to handle retired stallions. He might be a bit nasty for the Horse Park...

Cajungator26 07-09-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Swap Fliparoo
I'm sure there will be a couple of U.S. farms interested in working with him if he comes cheap enough.

When that (likely) fails, then Old Friends is well equipped to handle retired stallions. He might be a bit nasty for the Horse Park...

And John Henry isn't? LMAO

Downthestretch55 07-09-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=39686

well, no wonder war emblem gave them a hard time! this is outrageous, to cover that many mares in a season!

Golly, if I was a Buddhist, I'd know what I'd like to be reincarnated as.
And, if I ever stumbled into a pharmacy, how do you say "Super size that viagra" in horse-speak?

reese 07-09-2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Golly, if I was a Buddhist, I'd know what I'd like to be reincarnated as.
And, if I ever stumbled into a pharmacy, how do you say "Super size that viagra" in horse-speak?

Fantasy is always better than reality. Ask Sunday Silence, End Sweep, etc., how they physically fared mounting and breeding 230 mares a year, every year in and out for 10 years. They didn't last long... one died from broken withers falling of a mare(probably exhausted) and the other (SS) they tried to keep alive with a broken leg, laminitis etc.

Let's see how long Deep Impact lasts breeding 230 mares year after year...

Swap Fliparoo 07-09-2007 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
And John Henry isn't? LMAO

Of course, he is one nasty old boy.

But they are also out of stall space, from what i've heard...

Cajungator26 07-09-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Swap Fliparoo
Of course, he is one nasty old boy.

But they are also out of stall space, from what i've heard...

Well, that stinks...

If they ended up gelding War Emblem, he'd probably calm down a bit. (Ouch.)

Swap Fliparoo 07-09-2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Well, that stinks...

If they ended up gelding War Emblem, he'd probably calm down a bit. (Ouch.)

I'm sure it would help!!

What is John Henry, 32? it is possible he won't last forever... :D I'm sure Derby winners Funny Cide and WE would have first dibs at duking it out for space if the owners wanted them at the horse park...


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