Cannon Shell |
06-30-2007 11:11 AM |
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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Make up your mind...If he is a lead off hitter,then how does he have 700 more strikeouts than Garvey? Garvey hit for better average,has 700 less strike outs,and almost 200 more RBI.HOW CAN HE HAVE 700 MORE strike outs,and no seasons of 90 or above RBI? GARVEY had 106,110,111,113,and 115 seasons,and managed to do it with 700 less strike outs.Garvey is still way ahead in sacrifice flies.This guy was getting it done.I know exactly how good he was.There is no question he carried those L.A. Teams.They were not great offensive teams.Certainly not the 70's teams.We had to have Manny Mota bloop pinch hits into right field to win pitching duels.Garvey was the only reliable bat,and went forever without missing a game.That guy should be in that Hall.That much I know.You want ta put this punchin' Julie in, then do it after this guy gets in.
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You got me on this one. Garvey was way better at Sacrifice Flies. No one is saying that Garvey wasn't a bad player and if he had put the numbers he put up at second base he may be a fringe canidate but he pales in comparison to other 1st baseman while Biggio is a top player at his position. What is so hard to understand about that? Garvey was a top player at his position in his league for about 6 years and was pretty average for about 12. Biggio was a top player at his position for about 14 years and was pretty average for about 5. Simply Garvey was no where as good at doing the things he needed to do at his position as Biggio was at his. Period.
From 1974 to 1980 with the exception of 1976, Garvey was a very good player. But before that and after that he was very average. He may have been hampered by playing in Dodger stadium but no more so than Biggio was playing in the Astrodome. 6 good years are just not enough to get a guy into the Hall. He is not as good as Jim Rice or Andre Dawson neither of which is in the Hall.
Outside of you, Steve, Cindy and the 23 kids there is no one that thinks that Steve Garvey should be in the Hall of Fame. If he had played in Texas, you would have forgotten his name 10 years ago.
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