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The Indomitable DrugS 06-11-2007 08:24 AM

I still don't want to answer my own question....I have no problems posting about sock stories....but I really don't want to hear about some imaginary bias I supposedly have against a certain horse again.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-11-2007 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
OOOOOOOOOO

Well played. I just gave Sniper your phone number, that's cool right?

Did you?

I sent him directions to his place.

Mortimer 06-11-2007 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
OOOOOOOOOO

Well played. I just gave Sniper your phone number, that's cool right?


Thank you.




And it's fine.....in fact he just called shreiking at the top of his lungs.

I just kept laughing and saying "doo-dah!"..which made him all the madder.









Oh by the way.













I gave your number to Uncly Trust.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-11-2007 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'd like to hear more sock stories as well, or at least the shampoo bottle story I have heard mentioned.

When the time is right.....

Mortimer 06-11-2007 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Did you?

I sent him directions to his place.



My raccoons have been put on high alert.

Bobby Fischer 06-11-2007 08:34 AM

Watch the replay from the gate into the first turn.

Gomez turned down the inside and the lead going into the first turn.

He could have rated a slow 50second half on the lead or he could have changed the dynamics of the race and set a 48 half.

Probably 4th best regardless.

Beyond the start and pace decision:
On light viewing Gomez appeared to do a pretty good job of rating Hard Spun. In a quick look, I didn't see obvious signs of the horse fighting the jockey. If that is the case overall it wasn't the worst ride in history. If however Hard Spun never settled into a pace and actually fought Gomez all the way around then yes overall terrible ride.

Mortimer 06-11-2007 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Fixed that for you.



Quite possibly the nerdy post of the year.

Mortimer 06-11-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I still don't want to answer my own question....I have no problems posting about sock stories....but I really don't want to hear about some imaginary bias I supposedly have against a certain horse again.


You also failed to mention Jazil .



He and the other one make your ratings completely useless.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-11-2007 09:03 AM

the great Jazil?

Mortimer 06-11-2007 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
the great Jazil?


Yes...the winner of last years Belmont and also a faster time than the great Wench to Riches.




I have no favorite in this years crop...they all have disappointed me.








My raccoons are in attack mode!!

An intruder has been found!

LARHAGE 06-11-2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I agree. So let me get this straight, Pino is taken off for moving too soon. Gomez gets crap for not moving too soon. Can't have it both ways Larry.

You know, maybe a trainer change is what is in need here, he complains that he's not in front of the two horses who finished dead ****ing last setting the pace, than says he should have been the one setting those slow fractions, as if Albarado and Velasquez are going to let Gomez lope along unchallenged. If I were Gomez I would tell Larry to lose 80 pounds and ride the ****ing horse himself!

slotdirt 06-11-2007 11:30 AM

Only thing I would say in defense of Larry Jones is that Hard Spun was all over the place in the front stretch. I think he went from the four path to the rail back to the outside all before they hit the first turn...and he wasn't even going around horses. The ride was curious to say the least.

ninetoone 06-11-2007 11:33 AM

I agree with Jones on one point...the clocks in jockeys heads are not what they used to be. As for the ride he got in the Belmont from Gomez...it's Karma baby!

ArlJim78 06-11-2007 11:34 AM

I have made the comment before that he is a horse that seems to want to run at one speed. He doesn't have a kick and he can't be restrained. Whenever the pace is slow and the jockey tries to restrain him his performance suffers. I don't know who is at fault the trainer or jockey for the way he was ridden in the Belmont, but I would have thought his best hope would have came by letting him run relaxed on the lead like in the derby.

However even letting him run he probably still would have finished fourth, at best maybe challenged for third. At classic distances he is a cut below the top in this crop.

Cajungator26 06-11-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Only thing I would say in defense of Larry Jones is that Hard Spun was all over the place in the front stretch. I think he went from the four path to the rail back to the outside all before they hit the first turn...and he wasn't even going around horses. The ride was curious to say the least.

Very curious. Felt bad for the horse, honestly.


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