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KY_Sasquash 05-02-2007 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.


I think Rags will win in a jog if the track is fast. Im tossing Anna though, dont like her, i do like Autobahn Girl and Tough Tiz's Sis underneath and will play a few backup tickets with them on top

hockey2315 05-02-2007 01:38 PM

Can someone with the PPs tell me who the speed in the race is please? Thanks. . .

Cajungator26 05-02-2007 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Okay, now I get it. I see her point, just couldn't understand what she wrote.

3 and a half years of deciphering and I can sometimes get it. :o

miraja2 05-02-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Can someone with the PPs tell me who the speed in the race is please? Thanks. . .

Dreaming of Anna and Mistical Plan will most likely be on or near the lead. But there is no need to take my word for it, because the PPs are free on DRF.com this week.
Here you go: http://www.drf.com/row/pps/07kentuckyoaks.pdf
Personally I think this race is pretty wide open. I think Rags is a bit overrated, and there are 3 or 4 others here that wouldn't surprise me at all.

miraja2 05-02-2007 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
3 and a half years of deciphering and I can sometimes get it. :o

The "words" like causve and mustve tend to throw me off.

hockey2315 05-02-2007 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Dreaming of Anna and Mistical Plan will most likely be on or near the lead. But there is no need to take my word for it, because the PPs are free on DRF.com this week.
Here you go: http://www.drf.com/row/pps/07kentuckyoaks.pdf
Personally I think this race is pretty wide open. I think Rags is a bit overrated, and there are 3 or 4 others here that wouldn't surprise me at all.

Thanks. . . I'll be using Mistical Plan, Cotton Blossom, and Dreaming of Anna in my Derby doubles. . .

slotdirt 05-02-2007 02:52 PM

Anybody see the Aegon Turf entries? Those characters certainly deserve themselves a Breeders Cup race. Mighty Beau and Sgt. Bert!

Cannon Shell 05-03-2007 03:00 PM

Rags to riches will be 4/5

She is a better bet at 4/5 than Curlin is at 7/2

whorstman 05-03-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
You know, are her speed figures really that good? This field looks more competitive than I initially thought...


I totally agree, there seems to be several in here that can challenge her. I'm going to try and beat her myself.

Cannon Shell 05-03-2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by whorstman
I'm going to try and beat her myself.

There is no way you are fast enough

zippyneedsawin 05-03-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
There is no way you are fast enough


LOL!! I bet he's carrying more weight too!!

Cajungator26 05-03-2007 03:13 PM

I don't know if anyone (including whorstman) is going to beat Rags, but I will be using Rags, Cotton Blossom, Octave, High Heels and Dreaming of Anna. I think Pletcher has this Oaks in the bag.

randallscott35 05-03-2007 03:48 PM

I think she will win and I wouldn't bet her. Not a good enough price. I will sit out.

smuthg 05-03-2007 04:07 PM

I was at Oaklawn for the Fantasy; Cotton Blossom and Cash Included didn't have a chance... Rags maybe a superstar, but I wouldn't snooze on High Heels.

whorstman 05-03-2007 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
There is no way you are fast enough

Oh, you havn't seen me in the club! I can flat stalk some fillies! :D

ArlJim78 05-03-2007 04:47 PM

I think it's kinda foolish to try to beat Rags here. Anything can happen but she is quite the beast.

jdm 05-03-2007 04:59 PM

I can see, just as the whole world does, how veryone thinks Rags to Riches is. I've seen two of her races, yet those races were her's before they started. They set up perfect for her. I can't see her as dominating this field, in fact I believe her stable mate is going to beat her. Cotton Blossom is going to run huge. She's sitting on a big one, her Oaklawn race was extremely good. Johnny V proved once again he's a slightly above average jockey, not one of the best.... Dreaming of Anna and Mistical Plan also have big chances, as long as they decide not to tear each other to pieces on the front, this race is paceless. Rags doesn't have chumps to run by this time around. These 3 gals will definitely make her work for it.


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