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POINTGIVEN1985 04-02-2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Special I don't know about. But I think he can contend in Grade 1s this year...I do think that. Special I can't go with.

i love the upside i see when hes opening up in the tokyo city..... i dident say special now but i think he could be, especially vs the competition in cali

POINTGIVEN1985 04-02-2007 04:39 PM

thats not true.... you being a good handicapper should know that

Danzig 04-02-2007 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Special I don't know about. But I think he can contend in Grade 1s this year...I do think that. Special I can't go with.

i would like to join those who agree with this statement. winning alone on the front end doesn't make a horse special.

Coach Pants 04-02-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
thats not true.... you being a good handicapper should know that

Stick to betting imaginary pick 6's and unloading monopoly money on Discreet Cat.

AeWingnut 04-02-2007 04:44 PM

Follow the Money
 
I would run Invasor in the Pimlico Special, the Suburban, Whitney, BC Classic, Donn and then back in the DWC

Maybe a couple races in Hong Kong

Coach Pants 04-02-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
so if jack helps you off a horse, will you help jack off a horse??:D

If it's confined to this thread it'll have to wait until tomorrow. Fairbanks needs time to recharge his batteries.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-02-2007 04:51 PM

if fairbanks and lava man ran in 2 months, thats giving lava man time to recover from the trip to dubai, who would win ?

Coach Pants 04-02-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
dude really where did that come from ? were discussing a horse and you come back with that ? i was being serious in my comment about you, there was no sarcasim intended.

Because you just said a winner of a horrible grade 3 race would beat one of the best horses to ever run in SoCal. Not beat him away from SoCal, mind you, but in SoCal on a surface that neither have been over yet. You deserve no respect and should go to the corner and put on the dunce cap. Some of your claims are so retarded I envision Corky from Life Goes On on the other end of the internet drooling out what he considers gospel.

tycharles01 04-02-2007 05:04 PM

Well if Premium Tap comes back to the States

Invasor and Premium Tap should have a great couple of races.

Personally though he might have had Invasor goin into the turn but got destroyed in the stretch

smuthg 04-02-2007 05:11 PM

While we're reaching for competition for Invasor, I'll add a couple of names Buzzard's Bay? Steviewonderboy? maybe Nobiz by the end of the year. That said, if there's a horse out there that can beat him at 10 furlongs, I haven't seen 'em. Not that they would run Invasor on the turf, but think Vengeance of Rain could present some issues...

The Indomitable DrugS 04-02-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
While we're reaching for competition for Invasor, I'll add a couple of names Buzzard's Bay? Steviewonderboy? maybe Nobiz by the end of the year. That said, if there's a horse out there that can beat him at 10 furlongs, I haven't seen 'em.

Buzzard's Bay stinks.

And to use another Serlingisim, I'm not sure who will return first---Stevie Wonderboy or Jesus.

smuthg 04-02-2007 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Buzzard's Bay stinks.

And to use another Serlingisim, I'm not sure who will return first---Stevie Wonderboy or Jesus.

I was admittedly "reaching"...

Cajungator26 04-02-2007 05:27 PM

I like Buzzard's Bay. :p

smuthg 04-02-2007 05:29 PM

"Stinks" is a little harsh. Buzzard's Bay was pretty impressive at Oaklawn last year, but not sure he's run since...

POINTGIVEN1985 04-02-2007 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Because you just said a winner of a horrible grade 3 race would beat one of the best horses to ever run in SoCal. Not beat him away from SoCal, mind you, but in SoCal on a surface that neither have been over yet. You deserve no respect and should go to the corner and put on the dunce cap. Some of your claims are so retarded I envision Corky from Life Goes On on the other end of the internet drooling out what he considers gospel.

well i will stand by it, i firmly belive lava man has never beat a real race horse and i think alot of other ppl agree with me.

Cajungator26 04-02-2007 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
well i will stand by it, i firmly belive lava man has never beat a real race horse and i think alot of other ppl agree with me.

And just what is your current version (today's standpoint, please) of a "real racehorse?"

ceejay 04-02-2007 05:40 PM

I think that Invasor is the best horse we've seen in a while, but typically good US return performances from the DWC are rare. I won't bet him in the Surburban, but may not bet against him.......

POINTGIVEN1985 04-02-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
And just what is your current version (today's standpoint, please) of a "real racehorse?"

bernardini, barbaro, invasor, showing up, latent heat, half ours,

lava man has never beat anyone, who is the best horse he beat ?
you could argue that the best horse he ever beat was kings drama who is a solid grade 2 turf horse.

Coach Pants 04-02-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
bernardini, barbaro, invasor, showing up, latent heat, half ours,

lava man has never beat anyone, who is the best horse he beat ?
you could argue that the best horse he ever beat was kings drama who is a solid grade 2 turf horse.

Who has Fairbanks beat? Preachinatthebar? Yeah Lava Man destroyed that mule.

Cajungator26 04-02-2007 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
bernardini, barbaro, invasor, showing up, latent heat, half ours,

lava man has never beat anyone, who is the best horse he beat ?
you could argue that the best horse he ever beat was kings drama who is a solid grade 2 turf horse.

I guess I just disagree with you on what a real racehorse is...

Lava Man is a former claimer who has gone on to beat just about every horse (granted in California) who has showed up to race against him. I'd be proud to own such a horse. He's been a great investment to his owners, which is more than you can say for a lot of other racehorses.


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