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hockey2315 03-28-2007 09:28 PM

After watching the Fountain of Youth head-on I realized that Adore the Gold lost way more at the start than I thought. . . He probably lost 3+ lengths to Stormello. . .

miraja2 03-28-2007 10:05 PM

Maybe I am thinking of a different race (they all begin to get conflated in my mind) but didn't they come home in like 13 4/5 for the last furlong in the FOY. None of the horses in that race really impressed me as much as Notional in the Risen Star.
I don't have the pp in front of me so I can't say for sure what I will do in this race, but Notional's San Rafael and Risen Star were pretty impressive. Circular Quay is a legitimate colt, and I don't think he was going to get to Notional that day even if hadn't found traffic. I liked him in the Risen Star when he wasn't getting a ton of respect, and it seems like not much has changed since then.
Oh well, I hope he does go off at 4/1. I think the race should set up for him fairly nicely.

JJP 03-28-2007 10:45 PM

I would expect Stormello to be bet more than Scat Daddy. And if he's not, he should be.

TitanSooner 03-29-2007 12:15 AM

After watching his last race about 15 times, I think Chelokee is the REAL DEAL.

hockey2315 03-29-2007 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TitanSooner
After watching his last race about 15 times, I think Chelokee is the REAL DEAL.

I was just watching that race, which was very nice, but I'm still not totally convinced that he can step up to G1 company. . .

whodey17 03-29-2007 01:17 AM

This is a very interesting race with Adore The Gold and Stormello. It appears that there is not going to be an easy lead for anyone in this race. I dont think it sets up for a closer. I think it sets up for a stalker.

SOREHOOF 03-29-2007 05:18 AM

Boogie Boggs... on the board!

PPerfectfan 03-29-2007 07:14 AM

considering his jock is busy "burning in hell."

Thanks alot, coke all over the keyboard this morning. Poor Robby, come on people he has won many a race for yall "by a nose"!! ;)

easy goer 03-29-2007 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
Maybe I am thinking of a different race (they all begin to get conflated in my mind) but didn't they come home in like 13 4/5 for the last furlong in the FOY. None of the horses in that race really impressed me as much as Notional in the Risen Star. .

That is what impressed me about the race as well, Here is what I get by looking at the chart and looking at the fractions:

ScatDaddy: final 1/8 13.15; final Quarter 26 estimated.

Stormello 13.75
No biz 13.53
Adore 13.8

WHen a horse comes home in 27 sec. he's about finished. If they ran 10f on that surface with the same horses getting the same trip, etc. Then it looks like three of them wont get 10f. ScatDaddy seems fine.

So like you, that is what impressed me the most..

hockey2315 03-29-2007 08:43 PM

Question for someone who would know this- (Cannon Shell?)
 
Could the fact that Notional and Stormello's flight to GP was delayed have any impact on how they run?

Is there a certain amount of time that a horse needs to get acclimated after a flight like that?


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