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onebadbeast 03-21-2007 12:48 AM

Derby Horse
 
You Can Take Your Circle Keys, Your Notions, Your Saturdays, Your Storms, Your Streets And All The Rest And Stuff 'em. This Is The Year Of Your Cobalt And Your Merv Griffins...............

Kasept 03-21-2007 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Past Post
No doubt that Circular Quay is my board horse for the Derby.I really think Todd knows this is his Ace.This horse LUVS Churchhill Downs, which is a big plus leading up to the Derby.I just want to see one or two bullet works before derby day.I just hope he doesnt show to much his next outing that would kill his price come derby day.:D

PP,

Circular Quay is the barn pet around the T.A.P. shed... Any Given Saturday is the horse Pletcher wants to win with. When I talked to him Saturday after the race, he was very disappointed. I didn't understand until yesterday why... 'Saturday' now needs to finish 1-2 in the Blue Grass to MAKE the Derby grid. And the way the race is shaping up, that's no certainty... It would be stunning if Any Given Saturday ended up excluded from the Derby.

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
great cant wait to hear he goes the sns route..but tell matz to put em in the wood..

Speaking of the 'SNS' route, start adding Street Magician to your stable watches. Trombetta's Preakness colt... He's taking the Bernardini route...

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
A rare error....

LOL.. Don't the two of you go to the same barber in Louisville? (Maybe A.B. Meyer's shop there at Taylor and Central?)

ateamstupid 03-21-2007 06:23 AM

Hell must've frozen over. Byk with a PLETCHER HORSE at #1!

paisjpq 03-21-2007 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Hell must've frozen over. Byk with a PLETCHER HORSE at #1!

I think it's the heat down there in florida

Kasept 03-21-2007 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I think it's the heat down there in florida

"It's not the heat, it's the humidity..."

paisjpq 03-21-2007 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
"It's not the heat, it's the humidity..."

yes well it is 2 below right now here...so hell might just be frozen after all.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-21-2007 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
"It's not the heat, it's the humidity..."

First day of spring here in the "great" northeast...it's zero! :mad:

jjf1031 03-21-2007 07:26 AM

Would not necessarily dismiss Bird from any discussion just yet. Give him another start this year.

Amazed that Hard Spun fell so far off the one poor effort.

Agree with Notional being that high as professional does seem like the correct term to describe him at this point

Still believe NBLS is most talented, but blinkers better work in the Wood

ArlJim78 03-21-2007 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jjf1031
Would not necessarily dismiss Bird from any discussion just yet. Give him another start this year.

Amazed that Hard Spun fell so far off the one poor effort.

Agree with Notional being that high as professional does seem like the correct term to describe him at this point

Still believe NBLS is most talented, but blinkers better work in the Wood

That poor effort was confirmed when the horse that beat him, Tueflesberg, went on to be soundly beaten last week by a talented horse making only his second start, Curlin. Most people view Tueflesberg as a horse that doesn't belong on the derby trail. So its make or break time for Hard Spun this week. He fell fast with one bad effort, but he could also climb fast if he has a convincing win this weekend. I wouldn't count on it though.

jjf1031 03-21-2007 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
That poor effort was confirmed when the horse that beat him, Tueflesberg, went on to be soundly beaten last week by a talented horse making only his second start, Curlin. Most people view Tueflesberg as a horse that doesn't belong on the derby trail. So its make or break time for Hard Spun this week. He fell fast with one bad effort, but he could also climb fast if he has a convincing win this weekend. I wouldn't count on it though.

Agree on company line idea as I do not like teufelsburg at all. Just think that with a good effort at Turfway he could easily redeem himself to at least be in top 10. Also believe he might have a brighter future on grass but of course that is not topic of this thread

Travis Stone 03-21-2007 10:45 AM

Street Sense back on top - albeit narrowly
 
Immediately following his Tampa Bay Derby win, I was anxious to see how many could become believers in Street Sense. Honestly, I was a bit surprised. He is now ranked #1 in the Dispatch Derby Poll... but not my much!

Link: http://www.racingdispatch.com/poll.php?year=2007&week=9

MisterB 03-21-2007 10:54 AM

I am not surprized at all. Set the track record, and really never pushed. All he needs is a good effort in the Bluegrass, and pop on Derby day. Setting up pretty good for this guy.

jjf1031 03-21-2007 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterB
I am not surprized at all. Set the track record, and really never pushed. All he needs is a good effort in the Bluegrass, and pop on Derby day. Setting up pretty good for this guy.

I stilll liked AGS race a bit better.

Cajungator26 03-21-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jjf1031
I stilll liked AGS race a bit better.

Ditto on that thought.

jjf1031 03-21-2007 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Ditto on that thought.

Only concern is another effort like that might leave him spent for Derby. Still thought Street Sense had another great setup and allowed Borel to do what he does best, hug the rail

Cannon Shell 03-21-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jjf1031
Only concern is another effort like that might leave him spent for Derby.

Amazing that we know think that 'races' are too tough on horses. And then we are in shock when a "heavily raced" horse like Ravel breaks down.

byalip 03-21-2007 01:05 PM

Kasept--

"Speaking of the 'SNS' route, start adding Street Magician to your stable watches. Trombetta's Preakness colt... He's taking the Bernardini route..."

Just wondering if Trombetta's giving Street Magician mugging lessons to follow the SNS route.

jjf1031 03-21-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Amazing that we know think that 'races' are too tough on horses. And then we are in shock when a "heavily raced" horse like Ravel breaks down.

I agree. But you have to consider it when analyzing how horses are coming up to a big race such as KY Derby.

Cannon Shell 03-21-2007 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jjf1031
I agree. But you have to consider it when analyzing how horses are coming up to a big race such as KY Derby.

I dont believe this to be true for horses that have already proven a certain level of ability. For a horse to suddenly jump up and run a huge race that was far better than its previous efforts, then it could be an issue. But for fast horses to run fast, I dont see where it matters.

KY_Sasquash 03-21-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
That's fine. I'm going to side with Ken McPeek on this.. No offense. Keep the name Tejano Run in the back of your mind though...


McPeek claims that Bird is better than Harlan's Holiday. Still waiting for that to happen


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