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MISTERGEE 05-25-2011 11:53 AM

you are not very good at reading are you? either that or you may have to work on comprehension perhaps. It is nice to see you can admit when you are DEADWRONG though. I appreciate that. You may have to work a bit on you name calling however

dalakhani 05-25-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 777404)
wow, what a bunch of tremendous over reaction to 1 game. So many burials of the Heat. The NBA playoffs change from game to game. Dont be so quick to crown your champions

Nice. After game 2.

Where were you after game 1?

clyde 05-25-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 778870)
you are not very good at reading are you? either that or you may have to work on comprehension perhaps. It is nice to see you can admit when you are DEADWRONG though. I appreciate that. You may have to work a bit on you name calling however

He has no shame....really,really.

clyde 05-25-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 778871)
Nice. After game 2.

Where were you after game 1?

I have found that Mr. Swift will not answer these types of leading question as the answers may tend to vaporize him.

MISTERGEE 05-25-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 778869)
Is that supposed to be your grand "prediction"? LOL

Way to go out on a limb there champ.

who said anything about a prediction?

dalakhani 05-25-2011 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 778874)
who said anything about a prediction?

Well, if you didn't make any predictions yourself, isn't that kind of cheap?

It goes without saying that I'm wrong all the time so if you want to pound on my mistakes you will have plenty of fodder. If you want anyone to engage with you though, you will have to put your picks and opinions out there as well...before the event takes place.

I am on record in saying the bulls will win game 5.

MISTERGEE 05-25-2011 01:10 PM

I gave up picking sporting events about 20 years ago. I will put up some horse pics in advance though. I have noticed in the past history of NBA playoffs usually what will happen is the opposite of the game before. So based on that, Bulls have a shot. I would say they will need to get very hot on their threes again to take some pressure off Rose

ateamstupid 05-25-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 778838)
two

If you're going to be a redboarding dipshit, you should at least note what I actually said:

"If the Bulls make their threes like they did last night, Miami could get swept."

The Bulls are 14-for-56 on threes in their last three games. It's destroyed them. So my 'prediction', if you can even call it that, wasn't even wrong.

Dahoss 05-25-2011 01:29 PM

To me the big difference between the two teams has been the Heat have gotten contributions from guys like Miller and Chalmers when they really needed it and the Bulls haven't. Has Kyle Korver hit a 3 all series?

I also think Thibodeau has gotten out coached a bit by Spolestra which is scary. Lebron gets on Rose last night and all of the sudden the game changes and no adjustments are made. The Bulls last 2 possesions in regulation last night were terrible.

That said, I don't know how anyone could root for the Heat or Lebron. What a piece of sh.it he is.

Coach Pants 05-25-2011 01:35 PM

I haven't watched the series. Can't stand to watch LeBron carry on with his theatrics. The push-ups, mean muggin, wannabe alpha routine.

He's not alpha. He's a b.itch. No matter how many rings he gets he'll always be the b.itch who settled.

MISTERGEE 05-25-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 778911)
If you're going to be a redboarding dipshit, you should at least note what I actually said:

"If the Bulls make their threes like they did last night, Miami could get swept."

The Bulls are 14-for-56 on threes in their last three games. It's destroyed them. So my 'prediction', if you can even call it that, wasn't even wrong.

I showed exactly what you said "could get swept". The namecalling is a nice touch by you, very classy. How can I be "redboarding" when I never made a prediction?

MISTERGEE 05-25-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 778917)
To me the big difference between the two teams has been the Heat have gotten contributions from guys like Miller and Chalmers when they really needed it and the Bulls haven't. Has Kyle Korver hit a 3 all series?

I also think Thibodeau has gotten out coached a bit by Spolestra which is scary. Lebron gets on Rose last night and all of the sudden the game changes and no adjustments are made. The Bulls last 2 possesions in regulation last night were terrible.

That said, I don't know how anyone could root for the Heat or Lebron. What a piece of sh.it he is.

I agree. He kind of left Rose out to dry at the end with seemingly no real play called and no team movement. Just so I know, is Lebron a piece of ---, mostly because of the "decision" ?

Dahoss 05-25-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 778924)
I haven't watched the series. Can't stand to watch LeBron carry on with his theatrics. The push-ups, mean muggin, wannabe alpha routine.

He's not alpha. He's a b.itch. No matter how many rings he gets he'll always be the b.itch who settled.

You haven't missed much.

Lebron taught Bosh well also. Everytime he makes a play he screams, bangs his chest and carries on like a maniac.

MISTERGEE 05-25-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 778924)
I haven't watched the series. Can't stand to watch LeBron carry on with his theatrics. The push-ups, mean muggin, wannabe alpha routine.

He's not alpha. He's a b.itch. No matter how many rings he gets he'll always be the b.itch who settled.

I dont remember seeing all the theatrics you talked about in the days of the great Knicks, Lakers, Pistons, Celtics, Bulls matchups. I dont know where all this as you say "mean-muggin" chest poundig and screaming ever started but it makes you miss Magic, Bird, Jordan, Isaiah, Reed. I dont think they ever did any of that and look at how many great plays they could of.

Dahoss 05-25-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 778935)
I agree. He kind of left Rose out to dry at the end with seemingly no real play called and no team movement. Just so I know, is Lebron a piece of ---, mostly because of the "decision" ?

To me the decision is a big part of it. I have no issue with him wanting to win or going to a winner. He wasn't getting the support he needed in Cleveland, plus who wants to be in Cleveland anyway?

But, the decision was terrible and made him look like a giant douche. The parade and all that followed after was embarrassing and he just comes off like a douche I think. Like Coach said, his theatrics on court are too much for me. Play the game...

ateamstupid 05-25-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 778933)
I showed exactly what you said "could get swept". The namecalling is a nice touch by you, very classy. How can I be "redboarding" when I never made a prediction?

So what's your point? I wasn't wrong, so what exactly are you pointing out?

MISTERGEE 05-25-2011 02:10 PM

simply put, I was pointing out how many people had thought the series was just about over after 1 game, thats it

ateamstupid 05-25-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE (Post 778952)
simply put, I was pointing out how many people had thought the series was just about over after 1 game, thats it

Except I didn't. I said if the Bulls continue to make their threes, the Heat are in trouble. They haven't done so.

MISTERGEE 05-25-2011 02:35 PM

yes, but didnt you also say the Heat: are no match for Bulls on glass, and that no one has a prayer against Rose? You have to reconsider those I would say. After the first game the Heat are rebounding much better, and Roses shooting is abysmal especially with James covering him. All of which is ok of course, its fun to make predictions but in the NBA playoffs not easy based on looking at 1 game

clyde 05-25-2011 05:10 PM

Steven H. Crist!!

horseofcourse 05-26-2011 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 778941)
He wasn't getting the support he needed in Cleveland, plus who wants to be in Cleveland anyway?

Really? There were 800 foot murals of him and sellouts every single game, oh you mean on the court perhaps...ok. That whole issue is probably debatable. I have no problem in the end with what he did, he wanted things much easier which is fine. That's not a crime at all. It simply says who he is. He's played well these playoffs. I can't dispute that.

Justin Masterson, Tony Sipp, Joshua Cribbs, Joe Haden, Jack Hannahan, Manny Acta, Michael Brantley, Travis Hafner, Colt McCoy, Asdrubal Cabrera, Fausto Carmona, Chris Perez, Vinnie Pestano, et al.

Dahoss 05-26-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 779213)
Really? There were 800 foot murals of him and sellouts every single game, oh you mean on the court perhaps...ok. That whole issue is probably debatable. I have no problem in the end with what he did, he wanted things much easier which is fine. That's not a crime at all. It simply says who he is. He's played well these playoffs. I can't dispute that.

Justin Masterson, Tony Sipp, Joshua Cribbs, Joe Haden, Jack Hannahan, Manny Acta, Michael Brantley, Travis Hafner, Colt McCoy, Asdrubal Cabrera, Fausto Carmona, Chris Perez, Vinnie Pestano, et al.

There is nothing debatable about it.

Cute list though.

horseofcourse 05-26-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 779230)
There is nothing debatable about it.

Cute list though.

He got tons of not proper support in Cleveland. Gilbert gave him free reign which was wrong of Gilbert and led to his silly little letter as Gilbert did everything for the guy including running any trades through him. Yes, that's a Gilbert problem but they tried everything in their means through trades to find the right components when how much LeBron really assisted in attracting free agents is certainly debatable. And every one of those trades had to get LeBron's approval. It was too much power for a punky kid and led to Ferry leaving and to Mike Brown's firing and despite all that he made his "decision". Nothing wrong with it, but it is what it is. And in the end the reason the talent on the court was perhaps not as good as other teams other than him was because of his anticipated "decision" they had to make panic trade after panic trade to attempt to do it "now". That's a tough road to hoe for an organization. guy can play, but he's a punk. This was displayed when another Cleveland team was destroying his beloved Yankee team in the post season, he had to try to make himself the story of that series to the best of his ability.

Dahoss 05-26-2011 12:11 PM

I'm not defending Lebron, had you read what I said prior to trying to troll, I said I don't know how anyone can defend him.

All I am saying is no one was going to win a championship with the teams Gilbert gave him to work with. No one. The way he handled himself with the decision and everything since then has been embarrassing. But the decision to leave was the correct one.

clyde 05-26-2011 12:16 PM

The power of AMERICA'S TEAM.





Such frustration....tsk-tsk.

Dahoss 05-26-2011 12:17 PM

Wrong thread Romeo.

clyde 05-26-2011 12:25 PM

Any thread needs AMERICA'S TEAM....fucl<face.

Dahoss 05-26-2011 12:38 PM

Touchy touchy.

clyde 05-26-2011 12:41 PM

doo dah to you and your entire US Keds collection.



You can have the last word,nerd.

Dahoss 05-26-2011 12:43 PM

Someone needs their midol.

:$:

horseofcourse 05-26-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 779256)
I'm not defending Lebron, had you read what I said prior to trying to troll, I said I don't know how anyone can defend him.

All I am saying is no one was going to win a championship with the teams Gilbert gave him to work with. No one. The way he handled himself with the decision and everything since then has been embarrassing. But the decision to leave was the correct one.

In essence their fate was sealed the first offseason with LeBron. they were still a lottery team and had a legit number two guy in Boozer. They thought they had an agreement with Boozer to extend and then fiasco ensued and he left. That combined with them drafting Luke Jackson from Oregon with their lottery pick was pretty much it. I'd have to go back and see who they could have gotten with that pick, but it was one of the worst picks in NBA history. From that point on they never got high draft picks and they actually got serviceable players in Shannon Brown and JJ Hickson from some of those but they were not difference makers like you get picking high. It became a desperate search to find mainly stationary 3 point shooters to compliment LeBron through a series of trades and bad free agents. I think they did the best they could with what they were working with. And the Boozer fiasco and Luke Jackson occurred pre-Giilbert. And that was the precursar of everything.

King Glorious 05-26-2011 03:10 PM

The Bulls don't run many plays with Rose anyway so to expect them to run one with the ball in his hands at the end of the game was not a good expectation. Every should be able to see that running a play in that situation probably hurts them far more than helps them. Are you going to run a play for someone else? No. Just about any play for Rose would involve a screener and that's exactly what the Bulls didn't want in that situation. Miami has length and quickness on defense and they don't have to fight through the screen and try to help and recover. They just switch and by bringing up a screener, it would have made Rose have to beat 1 1/2 to two guys. Their best option was to hope that he could beat his man to the basket but with James on him, that was going to be very hard because James doesn't have to play up on him as tight because he can outjump him and get his hand in Rose's face from farther away. It just wasn't a good recipe for success for Chicago.

On the other end, Miami isn't doing anything spectacular on offense but they continue to do just enough. It appears that James and Wade coast for long stretches because they know that either or both of them can turn it on for a 5-8 minute burst and do serious damage and they are trying to save that energy until it's needed most. Neither one of them is playing with the same full game intensity that they did playing alone. Fortunately for them, they've been right. Another major difference between the two teams is that Miami needs a contribution from a third and fourth player but it doesn't matter which two players those are, as long as they get it. In order for Chicago to have any chance, Boozer and Deng have to produce because none of their bench guys have a chance of coming in and producing what they need. All of their offensive pressure is on the starters and those guys are inconsistent. With James and Wade, you KNOW that if they really need it, they can get it. Chicago doesn't have anyone like that. It's a huge psychological advantage. Chicago is out there feeling like they better get up by 12+ in order to have a shot because as long as Miami is within 10, they feel they can get that whenever they want and especially so if they are within 5-6.

Simply put, as Van Gundy said last night in talking about Dirk, when you have the best player on the court, you have a high level of confidence. It's even moreso when you have the two best players on the court and one of them is the best player in the world. Like him or hate him, James is the best player in the world and Wade is arguably the second best. Watching him take on the challenge of Rose and then when they play Dallas and he's going to spend time defending Dirk, it's incredible. How many players can defend those two guys and still be a 25-8-8 guy on offense? Only one. Him.

Dahoss 05-26-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 779375)
In essence their fate was sealed the first offseason with LeBron. they were still a lottery team and had a legit number two guy in Boozer. They thought they had an agreement with Boozer to extend and then fiasco ensued and he left. That combined with them drafting Luke Jackson from Oregon with their lottery pick was pretty much it. I'd have to go back and see who they could have gotten with that pick, but it was one of the worst picks in NBA history. From that point on they never got high draft picks and they actually got serviceable players in Shannon Brown and JJ Hickson from some of those but they were not difference makers like you get picking high. It became a desperate search to find mainly stationary 3 point shooters to compliment LeBron through a series of trades and bad free agents. I think they did the best they could with what they were working with. And the Boozer fiasco and Luke Jackson occurred pre-Giilbert. And that was the precursar of everything.

It's a star driven league. You're not winning rings with one guy and 7 scrubs. Shannon Brown and JJ Hickson? Stop it.

dalakhani 05-26-2011 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 779377)
The Bulls don't run many plays with Rose anyway so to expect them to run one with the ball in his hands at the end of the game was not a good expectation. Every should be able to see that running a play in that situation probably hurts them far more than helps them. Are you going to run a play for someone else? No. Just about any play for Rose would involve a screener and that's exactly what the Bulls didn't want in that situation. Miami has length and quickness on defense and they don't have to fight through the screen and try to help and recover. They just switch and by bringing up a screener, it would have made Rose have to beat 1 1/2 to two guys. Their best option was to hope that he could beat his man to the basket but with James on him, that was going to be very hard because James doesn't have to play up on him as tight because he can outjump him and get his hand in Rose's face from farther away. It just wasn't a good recipe for success for Chicago.

On the other end, Miami isn't doing anything spectacular on offense but they continue to do just enough. It appears that James and Wade coast for long stretches because they know that either or both of them can turn it on for a 5-8 minute burst and do serious damage and they are trying to save that energy until it's needed most. Neither one of them is playing with the same full game intensity that they did playing alone. Fortunately for them, they've been right. Another major difference between the two teams is that Miami needs a contribution from a third and fourth player but it doesn't matter which two players those are, as long as they get it. In order for Chicago to have any chance, Boozer and Deng have to produce because none of their bench guys have a chance of coming in and producing what they need. All of their offensive pressure is on the starters and those guys are inconsistent. With James and Wade, you KNOW that if they really need it, they can get it. Chicago doesn't have anyone like that. It's a huge psychological advantage. Chicago is out there feeling like they better get up by 12+ in order to have a shot because as long as Miami is within 10, they feel they can get that whenever they want and especially so if they are within 5-6.

Simply put, as Van Gundy said last night in talking about Dirk, when you have the best player on the court, you have a high level of confidence. It's even moreso when you have the two best players on the court and one of them is the best player in the world. Like him or hate him, James is the best player in the world and Wade is arguably the second best. Watching him take on the challenge of Rose and then when they play Dallas and he's going to spend time defending Dirk, it's incredible. How many players can defend those two guys and still be a 25-8-8 guy on offense? Only one. Him.

He's a freak.

Chuck said a couple of years ago that Lebron could guard a point and he proved you guys right the other night. That was incredible regardless of the help.

I am holding out hope for Chicago tonight and I really do hope that Dirk wins one.

I don't know the answer to this question but when was the last time that neither number 1 seed made the final. I want to say cleveland vs. san antonio but that might not be correct. I know it happens but not as often as people might think.

I am surprised that the Bulls coach isn't taking more heat (no pun intended) for that performance the other night. That play, or lack thereof, in the final 8 seconds was awful.

King Glorious 05-26-2011 04:27 PM

I just don't know what they could have done better. Rose has an uncanny ability to beat just about everyone in the league off the dribble and get to the basket at will. Bringing up another player to screen would have brought up another defender as well and I think you want to leave Rose with as much space as possible. Unless you mean that maybe they should have run some kind of play to free up someone else and I just don't like that either because I think you win or lose with your best player making the play. I thought the call was the right one but he just came up against good defense.

dalakhani 05-26-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 779400)
I just don't know what they could have done better. Rose has an uncanny ability to beat just about everyone in the league off the dribble and get to the basket at will. Bringing up another player to screen would have brought up another defender as well and I think you want to leave Rose with as much space as possible. Unless you mean that maybe they should have run some kind of play to free up someone else and I just don't like that either because I think you win or lose with your best player making the play. I thought the call was the right one but he just came up against good defense.

I would agree if there was less time on the clock but with 8 seconds you have time for multiple options. Anything but having the entire Heat team waiting for Rose. Rose was obviously having problems shooting over Lebron's length. He couldn't go around because everyone was waiting for him and even if he got to the basket, it would have been difficult to blow a whistle in a tie game in miami and he was pretty certain to get contact.

Maybe you run a staggered screen for Deng and have him as an other option? Heck, even clearing out a side and running a high screen and roll with boozer was better than what was effectively Rose against five.

clyde 05-26-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 779375)
In essence their fate was sealed the first offseason with LeBron. they were still a lottery team and had a legit number two guy in Boozer. They thought they had an agreement with Boozer to extend and then fiasco ensued and he left. That combined with them drafting Luke Jackson from Oregon with their lottery pick was pretty much it. I'd have to go back and see who they could have gotten with that pick, but it was one of the worst picks in NBA history. From that point on they never got high draft picks and they actually got serviceable players in Shannon Brown and JJ Hickson from some of those but they were not difference makers like you get picking high. It became a desperate search to find mainly stationary 3 point shooters to compliment LeBron through a series of trades and bad free agents. I think they did the best they could with what they were working with. And the Boozer fiasco and Luke Jackson occurred pre-Giilbert. And that was the precursar of everything.

HC..you are trying to have horseofcourse discourse with a yammering goof.




Move on to someone without petty jealously in their noodle.

Dahoss 05-26-2011 08:01 PM

Touchy touchy.

King Glorious 05-26-2011 10:24 PM

Guess I was wrong. I thought that if Chicago got up 12+, they would be able to barely hold on. Great comeback by Miami. Wade and James came up HUGE. HUGE. I wonder if all of the idiots talking about James can't finish games will shut up? Same ones talking about Dirk can't do it. Now, one of the "losers" will be a champion. My two favorite players. I love it.

dalakhani 05-26-2011 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 779465)
Guess I was wrong. I thought that if Chicago got up 12+, they would be able to barely hold on. Great comeback by Miami. Wade and James came up HUGE. HUGE. I wonder if all of the idiots talking about James can't finish games will shut up? Same ones talking about Dirk can't do it. Now, one of the "losers" will be a champion. My two favorite players. I love it.

Not taking away anything from Miami but the bulls are some chokes. Derrick rose is a choke.


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