I don't think it negatively affected the other people, so why would they tell anyone?

People's lives depend on Tiger Woods.

Why would his caddie let go of the man who feeds his family?

Why would the average tour player who is buddies with Tiger Woods let go of the man who increased purses on the tour so that he can be a smaller millionaire himself?

Why would television networks blast the single man who gives golf tournaments any ratings?

Tiger affected other people's lives so positively, why would they want to change that?

And now he's taking in indefinite break. Who knows if he'll ever come back? And what was his sin? Being horny? Our society is bringing him down because he can't control the sexual urges he was born with???

That explanation is completely unrealistic.

When enough people know something so explosive it doesn't stay a secret for long.

Not everyone on tour or otherwise likes/liked Tiger. I have a very difficult time believing that his behavior was so widely known.

And there's absolutely no way he stays away forever. He's far too competitive to bring himself to that. I wonder what he'd choose between keeping Elin and quitting golf forever.

I think the reason it took so long to come out is because he got much more brazen about it the last few years. As I said before, I don't think he was messing around much before he got married. In the late 90s when he was single, he was in Las Vegas all the time taking lessons from Butch Harmon. Back then, Tiger was not wild. He used to go to PF Changs alot with his friends. That was his favorite restaurant. Once in while, he would go to the Vodoo Longe and hang out a little bit, but that was it. On rare occasions, he would get a little drunk. But for the most part, he was all business. He was not a wild partier. He was not picking up girls.

I think he started his partying and wild life after he got married. And I think the more he did it, the more he enjoyed it and he just got wilder and wilder. I think we have a guy who started with a a couple of discreet affairs, and then he enjoyed it so much that he turned into an all-out womanizer. I think the last few years, his womanizing started spiraling out of control.

I think he started his partying and wild life after he got married. And I think the more he did it, the more he enjoyed it and he just got wilder and wilder. I think we have a guy who started with a a couple of discreet affairs, and then he enjoyed it so much that he turned into an all-out womanizer. I think the last few years, his womanizing started spiraling out of control.[/quote]

So that's what we call behavior that has a guy trolling for strange when his wife is in labor with their second child.....sorry but you get red carded from the relationship for those fouls. He hasn't bottomed yet.....

Maybe what I wrote was misleading...........from the excerpt( I read and can not find) he was implying that he was a strange bird and fellow players knew he was hiding something and that his public persona was a fraud.

trolling for strange...:D

understatement for sure.

Just another case of a guy with near absolute power over far too much money and too many people becoming corrupt and untrustworthy. At some point he'll be held accountable for his substance abuse issues that contributed to the accident and he'll get a taste of discrimination most likely he never thought possible as more evidence of Tiger getting obliterated comes forth from his short term, pay for ladies. The sponsors will start disappearing by the dozen. The expense of these settlements and loss of income could be devastating. He wouldn't be the first excessively rich guy to blow it all on a set of circumstances like this.

The privileges in life Tiger has due to the fact that he can hit and roll a little white ball perhaps better than anyone ever on the planet are very fleeting. Should the sponsors start to treat him like JDaly as this thing drags on a few more rounds and new episodes of Tiger blotto with the paid help will make an easy case for a very public need for a "focused recovery". Tiger will get mad and go into denial sending the sponsors for the hills especially with him not playing.

The fine line between being the best golfer and being just good is not very much. I think it's possible Tiger might have more of an addiction issue than the media has highlighted so far.

The fact that the guys impulse control is so horrendous with women is evidence of the same battle alcoholics and drug addicts fight everyday.

It may be a mistake to assume that the night of his accidents (car to tree, car to hydrant) he didn't finally lose the ability to hide his substance abuse due to his meds and drinking. This out of control behavior has been likely escalating as well. Raise your hand if you downed an Ambien SR with alcohol and Percocet last night, as Tiger did apparently. Choosing to party with that mix and then get behind the wheel of your car is just stupid and dangerous. These are horrible choices like sending voice mail to women to take their names off of a phone seemingly not getting it that those messages would become YouTube classics.

Who knows how long these examples of mixing intoxicants have been going on the way this guy disappears for long lengths of time publicly. Throw in some future propofol for problems sleeping that his ambien isn't fixing and we have a Michael Jackson type cocktail.

The best thing that could happen here would be for the state of Florida to quietly take a look at who is writing what and for what disease for Mr Woods. If some concierge doc is just giving Tiger what he is demanding the whole situation may be more dangerous than people currently think especially if Tiger is now horribly depressed and choosing to self medicate himself.

Tiger's current issues aren't just about new indoor records worthy of first ballot entry into the golfing Infidelity Hall of Shame.

good post doc

Who does Tiger think he is, anyway? Babe Ruth? Mickey Mantle? Just think if they had his resources.

Tiger is far from the first, won't be the last. Too much, too soon, too easy.

I hope he gets a handle on things, if not for himself, for his family.

Thanks maybe I should give Decaf a thought.....

I just don't believe there was drugs involved. He wife came after him. He crashed. It's not hard to believe.

I watched him because of great golf.

I do not care what he does off the golf course as long as he isn't raping anyone/murdering anyone/robbing banks!!!

If he comes back, I will continue to support him.

Maybe the gallery won't be so hectic around him anymore, and I can watch him up close and enjoy some great golf.

What did the Bible say?

"Let though with no sin cast the first stone"

Are you kidding me, the crowds around him will be even bigger. The Tiger maniacs/supporters will be out in full force supporting their boy. Then you will have a group that will just follow hoping to see something special/explosive (like watching for a train wreck) when he gets heckled and the two headed monster of Stevie W and Tiger blow a gasket. Then you will have that small group who will be trying to provoke team Woods. Granted I don't think there will be many inncidents, because the tourneys can't afford to lose Tiger forever. But you would have to think that there will be one here and there. Some idiot will be looking to get on Sportscenter and the 7:00 o'clock news and will be willing to cause all kind of chaos to make it happen. And if you were at the course that day, you would hope to be right in the middle of it watching it unfold right in front of your eyes.

I think there is very little doubt that he was under the influence of something. As we have heard, he was laying by his car snoring. He may not have been drinking but at the very least he had taken some ambien. It is possible he had taken a vicodin too.

This doesn't mean he has a substance abuse problem. Plenty of people take ambien.

That doesn't surprise me too much that Phil would say those things. It is well known that Phil and Tiger can't stand each other.

I don't think it was very smart for Phil to say anything. You never make yourself look good when you bad-mouth someone else. And in this situation, there is no reason to do it. Tiger has already made himself look bad enough. There is no reason for Phil to say anything.

...just showing his true colors

Best synopsis of the entire Tiger Woods story by Seth Meyers of SNL:


"Last Friday, Tiger Woods hit a tree with his SUV, and a bunch of ladies fell out"

What do you mean by that?

NT

Phil is one of the biggest phonies out there,plus he's got skels in his closet too. He's been jealous of Tiger for a long time.

Let's see, Vicodin, Ambien and Alcohol.

What's not to belieive?

Wow.....

You drive after you take Ambien? Bad choice...

Obviously there is a lot of so called facts taken as truth but apparently Mrs. Woods answered the officer's questions about alcohol and other meds in this case, percocet. Mixing these 3 and driving is a potential disaster especially with alcohol which is unpredictable. We don't know anything about any other night than the one he bounced off a tree and a hydrant but that is enough to warrant asking a few questions about his norm.

his caddy says he didn't know about tigers 'indiscretions'. i find that hard to believe.

I don't think he would normally drive after taking Ambien. He was trying to get away from his wife, who was chasing him with a golf club.

By the way, I personally would never drive after taking an ambien.

no way in this world would I believe that one!

Sponsor #1 gone

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/acc...hip-2009-12-13

There is help for Tiger and Elin - Ashley Dupre is now giving her love and sex advice to the NY Post. :zz:

http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/12/as...t-for-ny-post/

I can't believe TVG or Beulah Park didn't hire her first.

Oh and he does roids as well.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...ed_to_hgh.html

yea, tiger woods all of the sudden started driving the ball so much further than when he was younger :rolleyes:

there is nothing in that article to suggest Tiger has done any roids

Puhleeze, he bulked up a ton over the past decade. Why would you put using HGH passed him? I wouldn't put it passed a PBA player.

He also grew from a boy into a man the past decade. Why would a golfer use hgh? to make a putt? I guess maybe could have used something to heal faster... which it does say he did the blood spinning thing from that particular docter... but you are right that you cant put it passed him.

If you told me he was on the grassy noll, I would believe it.

He didn't take steroids!! The guy is honest as the line for the whores is long!

A standard to live by........Steven Wright said this exact thing about Derek Jeter during his Boston tour stop stand up show. Numerous older men in the audience failed the incontinence test the moment the words left his mouth.......

I have long wondered how Woods bulked up so much .

.....you might if some crazed woman was swinging away at your head with a 6 iron.

I think there are plenty of guys on the PGA Tour that are using stuff to bulk up. Much like in baseball, the stronger you are the further you're going to be able to hit the ball.

When Tiger Woods first came on Tour, he was about 20 years old and he weighed around 160-165 pounds. I think now he weighs around 185-190 pounds. Tom Pernice has been on the Tour for years. He was always in great shape. He was always 5'10 and 150 pounds. Now all of a sudden he is 5'10 and 170 pounds and he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. I know he works out really hard but I still don't know how it is possible to gain 20 pounds of muscle if you aren't using some type of supplement.

For a short period of time I had a personal trainer who worked with professional athletes. I asked him how much weight I would gain if I started working out really hard every day. He told me I'd probably gain 3-4 pounds.

Much like in baseball, I've seen golfers that have bulked up in a way that seems almost impossible without taking some type of supplement.

Here is another article about this doctor that Tiger has been treated by. This doctor is strongly suspected of providing athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091215/D9CJPQJ80.html

Here is an interesting article about HGH. The article explains that alot of athletes have switched from steroids to HGH. There is practically no way to get caught using HGH.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...itchell14.html