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miraja2 10-23-2008 10:37 PM
Will somebody please dart me for the next two days.

dalakhani 10-23-2008 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sdjcom
pass 2 yr old races

draw a line thru euros, too hot in La, to little time here to acclimate,

concentrate on cal-based horses
So in 2003 i should have gotten rid of High Chapparal, islington and six perfections?

mclem0822 10-23-2008 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani
So in 2003 i should have gotten rid of High Chapparal, islington and six perfections?
Great point, ignore the Euros at your own risk IMO.

ateamstupid 10-23-2008 10:58 PM
Ah, nothing like irrational, poorly thought out blanket commandments for an extremely nuanced 16-race event. At least he'll be gone until Derby time.

hockey2315 10-23-2008 11:49 PM
I can't believe anyone thinks this horse can hit the board. . . I don't really see a horse in here he should beat.

ninetoone 10-24-2008 12:26 AM
Smooth Air won't come in last...I'll bet on that if anybody wants some. :D

SniperSB23 10-24-2008 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ninetoone
Smooth Air won't come in last...I'll bet on that if anybody wants some. :D
It's impossible for horses to breakdown on synthetics so you can't count on that to get him home second to last.

SniperSB23 10-24-2008 12:38 AM
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Indian Charlie 10-24-2008 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
It's impossible for horses to breakdown on synthetics so you can't count on that to get him home second to last.
That's true, but does Desoremore have a mount he could pull up?

SniperSB23 10-24-2008 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
That's true, but does Desoremore have a mount he could pull up?
Fortunately not. Two mounts in nine BC races on Saturday, hilarious.

SniperSB23 10-24-2008 12:51 AM
I don't know what you guys are talking about. I came on here tonight solely for this thread and Seattleallstar's BC Friday selections.

docicu3 10-24-2008 01:09 AM
Daytona....Daytona....Daytona!!!

Honorable mention to Delightful Kiss should above scratch...

ateamstupid 10-24-2008 01:12 AM
Am I missing something in the Juvy? Doesn't Bushranger crush these if he takes to the surface?

SniperSB23 10-24-2008 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Am I missing something in the Juvy? Doesn't Bushranger crush these if he takes to the surface?
Pure sprinter, so much so that they aren't even booking future prices on him next year in Europe for the Classics. That being said, he is my pick. There is no pace here and if it turns into a 4 furlong jog followed by a 4.5 furlong sprint he should crush this field.

Unstable 10-24-2008 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
About tomorrows card. I know I am gonna throw a couple $20's at Be Smart in the 5th, but man I really don't have a clue what to do.

I am just looking out there and hoping I am not the only one. God bless good ole dirt;) Not saying I would do better at the windows of course but man alive this is a puzzle like no other............................................. ......:eek:
I still haven't settled on anyone, yet. But I'm still looking forward to being there Friday morning.

I have to admit it will be a guess on the "dirt" races. However, we still have all the great turf races to bet. When they change that to "Astro-turf," that's when I'll give up handicapping. :wf (not really) :D

santana 10-24-2008 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Would this be an inappropriate time to mention that my Dad died on BC day last year....from cancer?
My best friends dad died the night before BC day, the year that Skip Away won the Classic....He wasnt going to go to the races, but i urged him to go.
We hit the pik 6 that day...
I guess we had a little help from above.

cakes44 10-24-2008 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani
So in 2003 i should have gotten rid of High Chapparal, islington and six perfections?

That group of Euros was so much better than the group coming over for the turf races this year, it's not even funny.

2Hot4TV 10-24-2008 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sdjcom
pass 2 yr old races

draw a line thru euros, too hot in La, to little time here to acclimate,

concentrate on cal-based horses
This is nuts,,,,,,,,,,,,,, putting Cal based horses against the world because of the 90'/52' weather, over Class and Ability???????????????

I love pari-mutual wagering.

dellinger63 10-24-2008 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sdjcom
pass 2 yr old races

draw a line thru euros, too hot in La, to little time here to acclimate,

concentrate on cal-based horses
yea all you have to do is go back to the last BC at Santa Anita when is was even hotter. The Euros stunk up the place. Arcangues and Kotashan come to mind.

philcski 10-24-2008 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63
yea all you have to do is go back to the last BC at Santa Anita when is was even hotter. The Euros stunk up the place. Arcangues and Kotashan come to mind.
you mean 2003 when it was 102 degrees and europe swept the turf events (including a dead heat?)

slotdirt 10-24-2008 08:15 AM
Yeah, Kotashaan really hated that SoCal turf.

PPerfectfan 10-24-2008 08:16 AM
Pleasantly Perfect in the Classic.....oh wait that was another BC! :D

PPerfectfan 10-24-2008 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Am I missing something in the Juvy? Doesn't Bushranger crush these if he takes to the surface?
I really liked him, but I have been getting negative comments about him right and left. I would think that he could crush this field.

dalakhani 10-24-2008 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dellinger63
yea all you have to do is go back to the last BC at Santa Anita when is was even hotter. The Euros stunk up the place. Arcangues and Kotashan come to mind.
Kotashaan was actuallly based in So Cal the year he won the BC Turf at Santa Anita.

CSC 10-24-2008 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I've given up on Vacare. I had high hopes for her after her three-year-old season, but she's done nothing but disappoint me since.



It's not really debatable that Mauralakana had a significantly worse trip than Dynaforce in the Flower Bowl. Why wouldn't Dynaforce have "accelerated away" from Mauralakana? Soft course or no, that was Dynaforce's best chance to beat Mauralakana, and she took advantage. Good for her, but I don't see a remotely similar setup materializing in this race.
I watched the replay of The Mauralakana/Dynaforce 1st match up and she really ran a good race coming off a layoff and 1st time in NA. That race if anything will force me to take her today just because I believe she will be the forgotten horse or the one that seems to have the footing/trip questions of the contenders. I'll try her(Dynaforce) with some confidence today, I think she fits in here.

viscount26 10-24-2008 08:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdjcom
pass 2 yr old races

draw a line thru euros, too hot in La, to little time here to acclimate,

concentrate on cal-based horses
Thats a good way to lose money
:rolleyes:

slotdirt 10-24-2008 08:41 AM
I genuinely think folks ten to over-think days like today and tomorrow. It's too hot for Euros, the turf is too firm, etc. Just go with class and forget the voodoo, that's my advice.

knickslions2 10-24-2008 08:51 AM
Locks: Zenyatta and Well Armed

Toss Tiago

skippy3481 10-24-2008 08:58 AM
i think the two year old races offer the best chances at value. You have many horses that are very similar class and ability wise, but some are offering very nice ml odds. If you can find a horse or horses you like, you will be able to make some money.

sdjcom 10-24-2008 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by skippy3481
i think the two year old races offer the best chances at value. You have many horses that are very similar class and ability wise, but some are offering very nice ml odds. If you can find a horse or horses you like, you will be able to make some money.
I hope you do well on th 2yr olds.

GPK 10-24-2008 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sdjcom
I hope you do well on th 2yr olds.

He will. He's very sharp.

2Hot4TV 10-24-2008 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I genuinely think folks ten to over-think days like today and tomorrow. It's too hot for Euros, the turf is too firm, etc. Just go with class and forget the voodoo, that's my advice.
I will be at Santa Anita today and I have doped the races just like a normal day and it looks like a chalky day in the breeders cup races, but I'm driving a Honda.:D

GPK 10-24-2008 09:41 AM
Doremifasollatido

2Hot4TV 10-24-2008 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Doremifasollatido
With Evita Argentina and C.S. Silk for a big score. I aint lyin,,,,,,,,,,,, this is my $ 6 box that will save the day.

Danzig 10-24-2008 09:46 AM
well, if casino drive belongs, i guess smooth air does. :rolleyes:

hockey2315 10-24-2008 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Am I missing something in the Juvy? Doesn't Bushranger crush these if he takes to the surface?
Distance looks like more of a question to me. If he gets it, he wins.

GPK 10-24-2008 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
With Evita Argentina and C.S. Silk for a big score. I aint lyin,,,,,,,,,,,, this is my $ 6 box that will save the day.

Im really hoping she gets overlooked from that outside post. I trust Coa to work out a trip. I think she will stretch out fine (decent Tomi # for the distance if you use those) and she will hopefully be 8-10 times the price that Stardom Bound will be.

knickslions2 10-24-2008 09:57 AM
Well Armed

skippy3481 10-24-2008 10:28 AM
i hope too, i just think there are some very big prices that are not any worse then the top 3 in several of the races. With all the dead money in the pools, its a great day to take some shots.


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