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"u have told me numerous times I talk to much "


He wants to fk too much, and she talks too much. That part is pretty typical.

Him too.

But I was talking about the Randy Moss who tells this columnist at 53 seconds into the following clip that he's full of it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsAr3VMTGIQ

If that guy tried to sell me a Buick on tv ... I might buy one.

That and he could also like the "idea" of marriage - or he really did(does) love Elin.

One of my very best friends has been married for 10+ years, says he couldn't imagine life without his wife, but he has always had a girlfriend on the side for the past 9 years. I don't understand it, but I can tell he really does love his wife. It's odd.

I mostly just wanted to derail the thread with talk of Randy Moss.

But no. He liked the idea of having a hot Swede babe whom he can have fun with during his probably infrequent boring time spent at home.

The Sweed hottie looked good on his shoulder and cemented an extremely marketable image for him.

Lady Gaga a few years ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNq1j...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SIK-yzlxiU

I can tell he really does love his wife.

He is selfish and has no respect for her feelings. Call it what it is.

He loved her about as much as I love one of my socks.

Perhaps after she helped elevate his already giant popularity and marketability .. and started popping out kids for him .. maybe she started becoming something a little more than just an attractive cum rag to him.

Your boy got sent home today

What does that have to do with Lady Gaga?

She's a good piano player.

1) He is selfish. Most people worth a billion bucks are. Most winners are selfish.

2) If he had no respect for her feelings, then he would of let her find out earlier than this. I think he respects her feelings. If you disagree with someone about an issue, then you don't bring the issue up(cuz you know you don't agree with them about it.) Just because he respects her feelings doesn't mean he can do what she'd like him to do.

Tiger appears to be a very stubborn person that has a lot of trouble accepting when he's wrong. He will do it, but only when he absolutely is forced to. I think he thought he would be monogamous with his wife. He couldn't do it (wouldn't do it...however you want to characterize it.) So, what does he do? Does he tell her this? Hurt her, and his reputation? Nope. He avoids it, and that makes it worse. That's what happened when this thing started 2 weeks ago. He denied it as long as he possibly could. The biggest problem is that he agreed to be monogamous. Obviously, he tried to appear to be what people wanted to see (a monogamous family man,) and that was a big mistake. It is really a bad mistake, because he could of gotten someone that pretty without marrying her. Most guys will marry because they must(if they want to keep being with a certain girl.) I think he loves his wife. Guys do cheat on women they love. They don't do it to hurt them, or to show them they don't love them. If he didn't love her, then he would of moved in with another woman. Cheating has nothing to do with love. It has to do with his taste for multiple pssy. That has nothing to do with his wife. One woman won't ever satisfy this man. His tastes can't be satisfied by one person. He spends a lot of time with one woman, and made babies with her. That's about as good as someone this selfish can do. He just didn't want anybody to know it. Unless you are avoiding a snoring partner, you should be sleeping in the same bed with them. This is just one more sign that he's selfish. I don't think he's a full-on Narcissist, but he's somewhere close to it. If he didn't cry about his pops, then I'd call him a Narcissist.

You would be extremely surprised to know how many married couples have separate beds or even separate bedrooms. In a survey by the National Association of Home Builders, builders and architects predicted that more than 60% of custom houses would have dual master bedrooms by 2015. Here is an article about it in the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/us...=5070&emc=eta1

actually i read that only about 10% of couples don't share a bed. and scuds is right in that couples should sleep together, it helps to create that intimacy that needs to be kept in a happy marriage.

I think the percentages are quite different with really weathy people. According to the NY Times article, the trend in brand new high-end homes is separate bedrooms.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/us...63200&emc=eta1

She doesn't look like a guy...

I love Lady Gaga .... Gwen Stefani is from the master race (Italian father/Irish mother) and is plenty hotter ... but even though Gaga is phony as hell, she rocks.

:tro: :tro:

Yes, but read what Tiger is saying. That chick is wanting to fall asleep with him. That means she isn't gunna be checking email, watching T.V., reading with a lamp on etc. She's ready to fall asleep with him, and he doesn't want to. He doesn't say that he can't sleep with her touching him. He says she can't be in the bed with him, because he has a problem with that. I wouldn't be surprised if he snores(since he was said to be doing that in the middle of the street,) but he won't just say that. He either snores, or has some OCD thing going on. Either way, he keeps his own negative traits vague. Selfish type people have virtually no interest in talking about their flaws.

The reason I mention the separate bed thing is because sleeping in the same bed is a sign that you can tolerate some minor disruptions etc.(the needs of another) in order to be close to someone you love(or like.) It's a small sign that you are willing to tolerate someone else's habits. Narcissistic types can't do that. There are some reasons (in the article) for having two rooms (an option.) Unless there is a really good reason for sleeping in separate beds(snoring etc.,) I think it's a bad idea. 1) People are often so busy that those 8 hours are pretty much the only time they spend together that day. 2) If you have an argument, then the icy time will be shorter if you have the same bed. Not saying you'll talk, but it's still better than being in separate beds. If you argue, and have separate beds, then you can really have a long time before you'll talk again.

Thank God.

He at least used a condom with the porn star:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...wkui1nXuL6QHiO

She rocks in the sense that you want to do her or that you like her music?

I would do her - and her music is tolerable .... but mostly I just want to dress up like her.

Did Tiger graduate from Stanford ?

Not sure if he ever went back and got his degree (kinda doubt it) but he only played there 2 years before turning pro.

He never finished his Economics major at Stanford which surprises me at this point in his career. Not that a four year degree is going to help him make more money or improve his game but there are a number of athletes who have gone back as a promise to a parent or to make a statement about the value of accomplishment in school as a means of doing something other than make money.

There will be a long PR project putting Tiger back together and I would say it's even money he finishes up his degree as part of it. Hopefully he doesn't get an honorary anything...

This Jamie Jungers chick is on the Today show this morning. Talk about being sharp as a marble.

Tiger is taking an indefinite leave from golf.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1260...IDDLTopStories

I think it's a good idea....however the sharks will remain swirling for a long time.

Good for him. I hope he and his family are able to find the healing required. Tiger and Elin both face a long road ahead of them, especially Elin IMO. Forgiveness can be one tough ass thing to come by when you are feeling an incredible amount of hurt and betrayal that has been caused by a significant other. If Tiger is serious about changing his ways, be needs to be willing to jump through any and every hoop that Elin ask of him in the near future. I pray he finds the humility to do that. I wish them the best.

"The Secret Life of Tiger Woods" is on Dateline NBC tonight at 9pm.

When did he have time to practice? I mean his Golf game?

Are you saying that Tiger should become a gelding?

:eek:

TRUE DAT!

Article in Sports Illistrated coming out in the next week or 2 with Phil M. calling Tiger a liar and not a nice person. Says everyone on tour knew for years this was going on.

Gee...I hope there are a few skels in Phils' closet too!

If that's true then we have the ultimate double standard.....
Okay Tiger isn't the husband of the year.....but if Jasper volcano ash mumbles who introduced Ellin to Woods knew for years, where does this Pop Tart get off looking to slam Woods as if this was new news.

If he grew a pair he probably could have saved the nanny and kids quite a bit of pain but he didn't have the stones to speak ill of the Great One...no wonder your game is gone. The game takes guts and you left yours in the 90's.

Here is an article about a Madam that says she would set up Tiger's orgies. She says he would spend around $30,000-$40,000 a weekend.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...r-escorts.html

If so many people were privy to Tiger's escapades how did he keep it from the public for so long?