but mark sanchez was a hopeless reclamation project after 1 season.

it's a lot easier for me as a west coast outsider to explain away sanchez struggling as a rookie than it is to figure out how a truly pathetic o scored 30 points against ne.

i didn't see that score coming. i get the development curve a young qb faces but i don't know how you ignore a set of players doing that poorly against a bad o.

This current New England defense is the '86 Bears or '00 Ravens compared to the ones Moss had in Minny from '99 through '04.

As long as they can hold most teams under 31 a game they should be ok.

New England hasn't lost a regular season home game with Brady since Breeders Cup week of 2006. That was Invasor-Bernardini.

They have Cleveland, Detroit, and Buffalo on the road this year. Those are three likely road wins right there.

Until a team can hold them under 38 points at home - don't start projecting a ton of home losses this year just yet.

i know i'm stepping into a fight i have no dog in but the jets o needs to score 20 points/game to be .500 without revis. they'll score a lot more than that.

i don't know how you look at your team as a season favorite after the performance against buffalo.

We both know we beat the Jets at home. Your getting desperate naming Minn, Pitt, and Chicago.

Based on what will the Jets O score more then 20 points a game. Im guessing the seasson average for them, when its all said and done is around 17

good point. given today, i may have overrated the 28 against ne last week.

Well if Ateams is right and the D is worse in the NFL, then yes you have. You cant have it both ways. NE defense cant suck, but the Jets offense and Sanshit is good because of what he did against the NE defense.

Is Dahoss going to lose a bet because Brandon Lloyd is going off?

Going to roll over my Indy win on the Jets +2

I saved you on that Indy bet.

no complaints. what garrett gives, sebastian takes away.

2-4

-50

The Raiders are a friggen horror show. They miss 3 field goals - including a last second chip shot in the middle of the field in a 1 point loss.

They are 2nd and goal at the one inch line and get a delay of game - and get no TD.

They had about 150 yards worth of penalties. I realize they were away dogs - but they pissed that one away in a huge way.

The NFL is about parity. Look at how many times the Super Bowl winner does not make the playoffs the next year. Look at a team like Kansas City this year. Dallas and the Giants sucking. Minnesota sucking, Pitt being undefeated. Anything goes every week.

1-5 -$900 today
26-18-2 +905 season

I'm not going to lay 20 for two points. Win the god-damned game and don't bitch out and win by 1 or 2.

Jets +110
150/165

Wall Street 2 was meh.

WHy do you say 2? The Town was OK. What does meh mean?

Bears +135
200/270

Bears/Pack under 46 165/150

good luck. i'm just watching.