I just got eye cancer reading this thread.

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Not to mention that the rest of the Strub series consists of an 8.5f Grade 2 race and a 9f Grade 2 race. Two of the 3 are Grade 1 or 2 winners at 8.5f. The other is a Grade 1 winner at 9f.

your way off on some of these, Dynaforce is a lot more likely then Halfway to Heaven and good luck tossing Red Rocks.

your like in love with this horse.... she will not win.

Really? How do you figure?

I could be wrong, but i think the Europeans are down this year, i dont like any of them in any race other then maybe in the Juvenile Turf races.... Dynaforce has done nothing wrong, first time in the US she ran huge, she ran huge again at Saratoga, one bad race when she was rank and did not get the best trip and then she came back and rebounded in a big way last time out. Folk Opra could be on a slow slow pace, and Dynaforce could/should sit a perfect trip tracking the slow pace.

Who do you like in the race ?

Dynaforce had the trip of a lifetime in the Flower Bowl. Once she was able to lay down :52 and 1:19, all she had to do to win was not trip over herself. I thought she got beat on the square in all three races before that, and I don't think the pace will be as slow as you say. She's a nice enough filly, but to say she's "way more likely" than Halfway to Heaven makes no sense.

It's a tough one for me, as I have questions about almost everyone in regard to the distance. Gun to my head, I'd probably take Forever Together, especially if she's at her 6-1 M/L price.

Your right, but i cant see how anyone could toss her in this spot, i feel she is as good as Halfway to Heaven....

Dirt Mile: TOSS - Albertus Maximus

Distaff: SINGLE - Zenyatta

F&M Turf- SINGLE- Wait a While

NTRA sire has the free pp's, only problem is you have to click and print 1 race at a time.
http://www.ntra.com/races_index.aspx?id=3

hope it works.

Sorry to hear that. It will remain a tough day for a while.

Curlin is going to the winners circle

Cocoa Beach is out out of the money.

Lead Pipe Locks
 

Death or taxes lead pipe locks. Pick one horse over the two days if your life depended on it.

I will ride Goldikova.

Can't argue with Goldikova. I'll go with Soldier of Fortune.

Gotta click on Zenyatta

I totally disagree - Intangaroo has a great shot. The pace of the race suits her to a tee and I don't see where she has issues with Artificial Surfaces. IMO she is a must use in exotics.

To me, the easiest toss is Carriage Trail returning in less than three weeks off the huge effort while lugging out badly

lock--Indian Blessing

toss--Pyro

I am thoroughly convinced nothing good happened on BC Day last year. :(

Curlin

This is one of the most interesting races on the card, In my opinion I don't think there is a lot difference in quality between Forever Together, Mauralakana, and Dynaforce. They've traded decisions and trip is what usually what separates them.

I don't disagree about the soft pace Dynaforce inherited in the F Bowl but she did accelerate away from Mauralakana I believe a good 3 furlongs out once they started to sprint for the line and extended that cushion. Now maybe Mauralakana does not like a softer turf course but I have a contrarian view on the soft trip angle. The way I see this race shape up is Folk Opera on the lead with Halfway, Dynaforce and Wait A While pressing. I think Folk Opera needs the lead whereas the other 3 are pressers. Whoever can kick home the best most likely will be the winner, I wouldn't want to be the chaser lying 2nd. But the 1st or 3rd and 4th horse ready to pounce most likely. I'm only dissapointed P. kitten is not in it to add more speed to the mix. This is a race where I think the NA's stack up very well against the Euro's. Halfway to Heaven while good is not in the league of the top females in Europe and I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't take a beating at the windows.

Stop jinxing her. You've named just about half the field.:zz:

Zenyatta

Pyro

By the way just to clarify I am not saying Dynaforce is a lead pipe cinch or anything close to that, just that I wouldn't be comfortable leaving her off any pick3-4 tickets. I would be very happy if either one of Mauralakana or Dynaforce are 7/1 at post time. My first preference would be the former at those odds.

I don't like Dynaforce at ALL. To me, there is nothing more dangerous than reasonably quality lone speed in a turf marathon/distance race, which she was in the Flower Bowl- and won't be here. Need proof? See stakes in the last month or so:

The Saranac
The KY Cup Turf
The Flower Bowl
The Glens Falls

How did said frontrunners do in their next start?? Not so good. 5th, 8th, [yet to run], 3rd (i think)

I think you have to use her, just incase for whatever reason Folk Opera who is stuck outside doesn't make the lead, on paper she should but as we know Jocks have minds of their own. Not that she needs the lead but Dynaforce may find herself on it and that makes her dangerous at the right odds.

Yes and no. Draw a line through the Glens Falls, no prob, 3 turns, small field with the lone speed as mentioned, but besides that she got ran down while clear in the Diana and got beat by Mauralakana facing a similar situation in the New York. Of course she can hit the board, it's the BC and unless it's Rick's Natural Star it's impossible to truly toss anyone with confidence but I think there's 5-6 in here I'd use over her and at 6-1 that's not a gamble I like.

If Folk Opera doesn't go, Halfway to Heaven does coming out of a mile race she led througout in on the straight.

HRfan saying something dumb.

I really don't think this one is close to a lock. She'll be up against it with the surface and the caliber of competition. This field is no joke and her last win over Henrythenavigator was in a bog.

The pace and firm surface might not be to this one's liking.

C.S. Silk

Peppers Pride

Thanks Scurlogue. Who is your lead pipe lock?

I like her and Dream Empress, at least from a value angle, in that race.

hopefully I will still like her after the race when there is more money in my account :)

Happy betting all