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pgardn 05-27-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
So what you're saying is you were getting cummed on when the circle occured?


Riiiiight.

The foot fungus speaks.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
So what you're saying is you were getting cummed on when the circle occured?


Riiiiight.

Sure and LeBron James sucks too, genius.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I read a blog today that is convinced the North Korea will launch a nuclear attack on South korea this December. i must have missed the above post there.

If you wrote a blog you could say the same thing and also be wrong.

The blog isnt supposed to prove im "right". It simply stated my position better than i could. Its just interesting that there is so much written and said about a call that you say was so obvious. I did a search and there are like a zillion hits on how bogus the call was. Does it make me right? no. There is no right or wrong. Official makes the call and it is what it is. But obvious? Thats just a dumb statement especially when two other on court officials didnt even make a move to blow the whistle.

ateamstupid 05-27-2009 08:58 PM

Yikes, I've been pleasantly surprised with the officiating in the conference finals, but I guess with one of the Nike puppets down 3-1, it's time for the shenanigans to come out. What's getting called under the Lakers basket and under the Nuggets basket is completely different so far.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
The blog isnt supposed to prove im "right". It simply stated my position better than i could. Its just interesting that there is so much written and said about a call that you say was so obvious. I did a search and there are like a zillion hits on how bogus the call was. Does it make me right? no. There is no right or wrong. Official makes the call and it is what it is. But obvious? Thats just a dumb statement especially when two other on court officials didnt even make a move to blow the whistle.

So much was written? Where on Orlandomagicfan.com? The call was obvious. There was no hesitation by the ref who had a perfect view of the play. Did that ref not have a perfect angle? Was he the only one in on the Lebron James conspiracy? James was already 75% by him in frame 118. in frame 119 the guys leg is between james. In frame 120 he is falling down. why is this hard to see?

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yikes, I've been pleasantly surprised with the officiating in the conference finals, but I guess with one of the Nike puppets down 3-1, it's time for the shenanigans to come out. What's getting called under the Lakers basket and under the Nuggets basket is completely different so far.

The refs have been brutal the entire season. They are so concerned that about contact starting an incident they call ridiculous fouls and then 5 minutes later they just let anything go. And the technicals are out of control

dalakhani 05-27-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
So much was written? Where on Orlandomagicfan.com? The call was obvious. There was no hesitation by the ref who had a perfect view of the play. Did that ref not have a perfect angle? Was he the only one in on the Lebron James conspiracy? James was already 75% by him in frame 118. in frame 119 the guys leg is between james. In frame 120 he is falling down. why is this hard to see?

Uh...because the guy underneath the basket had the angle on what was going on with the body considering it was a block. Uh...because the call was made in the paint and the underneath official has just as much responsibility to make that call and he saw the whole thing and didnt pick up his whistle.

Lebron gets calls and there isnt another player in the nba besides kobe that could get that call in a playoff game with .5 seconds left on the road. Denying this is foolish.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Uh...because the guy underneath the basket had the angle on what was going on with the body considering it was a block. Uh...because the call was made in the paint and the underneath official has just as much responsibility to make that call and he saw the whole thing and didnt pick up his whistle.

Lebron gets calls and there isnt another player in the nba besides kobe that could get that call in a playoff game with .5 seconds left on the road. Denying this is foolish.

There was no "underneath" ref. He was down in the corner on the other side of the court with a player in between him and the play. the ref who had the call absolutely had the call. It is idiotic to even suggest that it wasnt his call. You posted the video. Look at it and look where the refs were. Debating the call is one thing but saying that the wrong ref or an out of position ref made the call is not even debatable based on the video evidence.


Henry Abbott is about as respected an NBA blogger as there is.

His take http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...rs-Game-4.html

To many, the game was marred by the referees. But watching the video, the referees got the big crunch time calls right, even though in real time many such calls looked bad. The exception? A travel call that went against the Magic.
In the closing minutes of the fourth quarter, Hedo Turkoglu was called for a travel. Slow motion instant replay reveals Turkoglu gathered his dribble as he stepped onto his left foot. He then stepped onto his right foot, launched, and shot. Not a travel. (Well it could be, by the rulebook, depending exactly when he gathered the ball, but not the way NBA referees are instructed to call it, and you see it dozens of times a game.)
The call that appeared the weakest was at the end of regulation. His team down two, James drove the lane, fell down, and Mickael Pietrus was called for a foul. It seemed like the classic case of a superstar bailout call, and didn't we all get a little sick at the thought that such a big game would be decided in such a manner. Looking at the replay, though, it's undeniable that James fell because Pietrus's foot tangled with James'. It might not get called that way every time, but it was a trip.

SniperSB23 05-27-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yikes, I've been pleasantly surprised with the officiating in the conference finals, but I guess with one of the Nike puppets down 3-1, it's time for the shenanigans to come out. What's getting called under the Lakers basket and under the Nuggets basket is completely different so far.

Yeah, it is brutal. People are complaining about Cleveland while one of the worst officiated games of all time is going on right now.

Coach Pants 05-27-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Sure and LeBron James sucks too, genius.

No you're the genius. Best trainer ever.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
There was no "underneath" ref. He was down in the corner on the other side of the court with a player in between him and the play. the ref who had the call absolutely had the call. It is idiotic to even suggest that it wasnt his call. You posted the video. Look at it and look where the refs were. Debating the call is one thing but saying that the wrong ref or an out of position ref made the call is not even debatable based on the video evidence.


Henry Abbott is about as respected an NBA blogger as there is.

His take http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...rs-Game-4.html

To many, the game was marred by the referees. But watching the video, the referees got the big crunch time calls right, even though in real time many such calls looked bad. The exception? A travel call that went against the Magic.
In the closing minutes of the fourth quarter, Hedo Turkoglu was called for a travel. Slow motion instant replay reveals Turkoglu gathered his dribble as he stepped onto his left foot. He then stepped onto his right foot, launched, and shot. Not a travel. (Well it could be, by the rulebook, depending exactly when he gathered the ball, but not the way NBA referees are instructed to call it, and you see it dozens of times a game.)
The call that appeared the weakest was at the end of regulation. His team down two, James drove the lane, fell down, and Mickael Pietrus was called for a foul. It seemed like the classic case of a superstar bailout call, and didn't we all get a little sick at the thought that such a big game would be decided in such a manner. Looking at the replay, though, it's undeniable that James fell because Pietrus's foot tangled with James'. It might not get called that way every time, but it was a trip.

So...let me get this right...Your blogger is better than my blogger????

LOL This is hilarious!

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Yeah, it is brutal. People are complaining about Cleveland while one of the worst officiated games of all time is going on right now.

It is sickening. Did you really think that they would just let them play straight up?

SniperSB23 05-27-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
So...let me get this right...Your blogger is better than my blogger????

LOL This is hilarious!

Stop reading blogs and typing and watch the freakin game. This is a disgrace.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
No you're the genius. Best trainer ever.

He is a great judge of bloggers!

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
No you're the genius. Best trainer ever.

Thanks Coach. That is nice of you.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
So...let me get this right...Your blogger is better than my blogger????

LOL This is hilarious!

At least my blogger gets paid for his and I did provide a name and link. You said that there were all these posts all over talking about bad calls. I provided one which stated the complete opposite.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:19 PM

okay lets all be nice. This game is a travesty.

One thing though. When the lakers get this from odom, they are clearly the best team in the league.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
At least my blogger gets paid for his and I did provide a name and link. You said that there were all these posts all over talking about bad calls. I provided one which stated the complete opposite.

Actually, the fact that he even brought it up proves that it wasnt clear cut and people were debating it. Is that not true Blogger expert?

SniperSB23 05-27-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
okay lets all be nice. This game is a travesty.

One thing though. When the lakers get this from odom, they are clearly the best team in the league.

When the Nuggets can't actually defend him or Gasol without getting called for a foul then of course they are going to look good.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
He is a great judge of bloggers!

And referees too. Sometime when you actually get something right maybe I will show you the ropes.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Actually, the fact that he even brought it up proves that it wasnt clear cut and people were debating it. Is that not true Blogger expert?

No it proves that people like you were mistaken in your view of the situation.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
When the Nuggets can't actually defend him or Gasol without getting called for a foul then of course they are going to look good.

I agree. But that drive and nasty dunk over birdman was out of character. good to see him aggressive.

They will be in the penalty with half the quarter left. Ready to throw up the white flag snipe? What do you think game 7 will be?

They won't be able to breathe on kobe without getting a foul.

SniperSB23 05-27-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I agree. But that drive and nasty dunk over birdman was out of character. good to see him aggressive.

They will be in the penalty with half the quarter left. Ready to throw up the white flag snipe? What do you think game 7 will be?

They won't be able to breathe on kobe without getting a foul.

That dunk on Anderson where he turned away and Odom threw an elbow in his back to get a 3 point play was one of the worst calls of the game.

Never a white flag in this series. I have the best team and the best team can beat out bad officiating, the Nuggets just need to stop self destructing when things don't go their way (which they won't).

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
That dunk on Anderson where he turned away and Odom threw an elbow in his back to get a 3 point play was one of the worst calls of the game.

Never a white flag in this series. I have the best team and the best team can beat out bad officiating, the Nuggets just need to stop self destructing when things don't go their way (which they won't).

You didnt think that was a foul? Why?

SniperSB23 05-27-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You didnt think that was a foul? Why?

Cause Anderson went straight up, turned away when he was beat, and the contact was Odom putting his elbow in his spine. Other than that it was an obvious foul.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
No it proves that people like you were mistaken in your view of the situation.

Oh God...you are getting boring now.

It proves nothing. its one guy's opinion just like the other guy's opinion... nothing more nothing less. Its a blog...you said it yourself. :rolleyes:

Okay, i thnk this blogger is better than your blogger...and he actually picked cleveland:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ge=dime-090527

If there was a superstar call in this game -- and it's arguable whether there was one despite the way the fans here reacted in disbelief -- LeBron James was on the receiving end of it when he initiated contact with Mickael Pietrus while going to the hole and was tripped with a half-second left in regulation, then knocked down both free throws to send the game to overtime.

SniperSB23 05-27-2009 10:32 PM

They've completely neutralized Nene, great job refs.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Cause Anderson went straight up, turned away when he was beat, and the contact was Odom putting his elbow in his spine. Other than that it was an obvious foul.

I just dont know what to say...

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:34 PM

damn. Carmello got killed.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
They've completely neutralized Nene, great job refs.

That was a tough call. Looked like an offensive.

SniperSB23 05-27-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
damn. Carmello got killed.

And the announcers just watched the same thing in slow motion and said it was clean! The announcers want Kobe more than the refs. Please put this series on TNT.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Oh God...you are getting boring now.

It proves nothing. its one guy's opinion just like the other guy's opinion... nothing more nothing less. Its a blog...you said it yourself. :rolleyes:

Okay, i thnk this blogger is better than your blogger...and he actually picked cleveland:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ge=dime-090527

If there was a superstar call in this game -- and it's arguable whether there was one despite the way the fans here reacted in disbelief -- LeBron James was on the receiving end of it when he initiated contact with Mickael Pietrus while going to the hole and was tripped with a half-second left in regulation, then knocked down both free throws to send the game to overtime.

Whatever. You still wont admit lebron covers Alston. Everyone picked cleveland.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Whatever. You still wont admit lebron covers Alston. Everyone picked cleveland.

If he did cover alston, he cant cover him. alston scored 26. That would mean lebron cant cover a point guard. Right?

pgardn 05-27-2009 10:38 PM

These games are difficult to ref.
Kobe, Lebron, Carmello, they are all so
strong and can do much while in the air...
it has got to be hard to make gamespeed
decisions with this kind of strength and speed.

Nene call did look bad. But reputation does come
into play and he is known as a bonehead.
If Duncan had made that play, it would have
been offensive or traveling on Gasol.

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
If he did cover alston, he cant cover him. alston scored 26. That would mean lebron cant cover a point guard. Right?

Perhaps he cant do it well but he still does.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
And the announcers just watched the same thing in slow motion and said it was clean! The announcers want Kobe more than the refs. Please put this series on TNT.

I mean these are some pretty rough hacks. Now, let me ask you this snipe, are these no calls anywhere close to the foul that got called on pietrus last night? I mean, these are REAL fouls that arent being called.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Perhaps he cant do it well but he still does.

Rafer Alston was wide open almost the whole night. he cant guard him at all.

SniperSB23 05-27-2009 10:41 PM

Will you guys stop with Lebron-Alston?!!!!! Lebron was matched up with him but it was obvious the intent was so that Lebron could double team other people.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:42 PM

wow what a look. That was indeed a foul on martin.

dalakhani 05-27-2009 10:43 PM

6 pt sucker line in this game.


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