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CSC 10-22-2008 06:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Just incase there aren't yet enough BC threads, who are you tossing?

Who is a lock?

Play nice in the sandbox kids. :D

My single is Cocoa Beach, still working on my toss list.
Sorry Miss Stormcat, I'll wait till I see the toteboard to answer that one.

One thing I will say as I posted about 6+ months ago and then 2 months ago my automatic toss will be Midnight Lute. I know he's reportedly training well... again, however given all of his problems he's a horse I can live with if he beats me a short odds.

Indian Charlie 10-22-2008 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by miraja2
I think the two best singles on the Friday card are in the juvy races:
Stardom Bound in the juvy fillies, and Laragh in the juvy fillies turf.

Of horses that will probably take some money, I think Intangaroo is a toss in the Filly and Mare Sprint. She appears to be much better on the dirt than synthetics, and if the race sets up well for her in terms of pace, it will also set up well for Ventura, who I like a lot more.
I would not be stunned to see Ventura hit the board, but I would be stunned if Ventura won. That horse is gutless. Easily the toss of the 2 day card for me.

mclem0822 10-22-2008 07:11 PM
1 each thus far......
 
Lock-Zenyatta
Toss-Pyro(Though they did the smart thing staying away from the classic)

miraja2 10-22-2008 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mclem0822
Lock-Zenyatta
I know this is the conventional wisdom, but I don't really understand how anybody that watched the Spinster could think Zenyatta is a lock. She is the most likely winner to be sure, but McGaughey's mare seems like she loves two-turns on the synthetic.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-22-2008 07:30 PM
If I had a single it would be Midnight Lute(I have 75% of my money on him.) I have cover bets. So, it's not considered a real single.

M LUTE(8/1)+ KIP DEVILLE(7/1)= 71-1
M LUTE+ W'THESCRIPT(10/1)= 98-1
M LUTE+ GOLDIKOVA(9/2)= 48.5-1

Covers:

STREET BOSS(7/2)+KIP DEVILLE+ GET FUNKY(14/1)= 539-1
STREET BOSS+W'THESCRIPT+ GET FUNKY= 741-1
STREET BOSS+GOLDIKOVA+ GET FUNKY= 370-1


FIRST DEFENCE(12/1)+KIP DEVILLE + GET FUNKY=1559-1
FIRST DEFENCE+W'THESCRIPT+ GET FUNKY=2144-1
FIRST DEFENCE+GOLDIKOVA+ GET FUNKY=1071-1

peter 10-22-2008 07:33 PM
breeder cup information and pp
 
this one is all complete you need to about the horse and post postion from equibase..

k9styl94 10-22-2008 07:39 PM
Here's a good one from trainer's only, but very good & free!!
 
http://www.horse-races.net/library/l...rformances.htm

the_fat_man 10-22-2008 07:49 PM
At some point MAYBE TRACKS will get a CLUE and start offering FREE PPS for their races. Until that happens, we'll let the trainers (and breeders) do the job for them since they have MORE money.

peter 10-22-2008 07:50 PM
breedercup p.p and information
 
http://www.equibase.com/bcup2008/oerp/08bcuptv-all.pdf

philcski 10-22-2008 08:12 PM
Toss: Munnings
Single: Skipadate

philcski 10-22-2008 08:29 PM
I also think Well Armed is a beast in the "dirt" Mile.

Bogey 10-22-2008 08:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by philcski
Toss: Munnings
Single: Skipadate
Phil, I agree 100% with Skipadate, he's looking more and more like my best bet of the weekend.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-22-2008 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Really?? Stunned?? She's won 3 of 6 since coming to the US. I think you can toss the try at Churchill since speed was golden all Derby weekend long and they crawled around the track. She certainly vindicated herself a few weeks later at Belmont, a race where she had to dig down and hang on. She lost by a pimple to Diamond Diva and was second to the boys at Woodbine. She's run well on 2 different synthetic surfaces and should get plenty of pace to run at. What am i missing? Are you sure you are thinking of the right horse?
You only missed the fact she's working particularly well on the Pro-Ride. To me, both Intagaroo n' Ventura have a huge chance to win it. Seems like, every time I think something like that in the B.C., the chalk draws off to win easily.

mclem0822 10-22-2008 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by miraja2
I know this is the conventional wisdom, but I don't really understand how anybody that watched the Spinster could think Zenyatta is a lock. She is the most likely winner to be sure, but McGaughey's mare seems like she loves two-turns on the synthetic.
Great point, I loved Carriage Trail's Spinster, but I still think Zenyatta will be too much for this group.

letswastemoney 10-22-2008 09:35 PM
Zenyatta has only faced 1 or 2 good horses a race in each of her wins. She's never faced 4 or 5 good horses at the same time. It will be a test for sure....

RollerDoc 10-22-2008 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm in no hurry to bet a horse at 3-5 and will only bet the race in picks if I play, but what does this mean? Do you think another "good" horse or two in any of her races would have mattered? She has destroyed everything out there on any surface she has stepped foot on.
Zenyatta is the Big Brown of the girls it sounds like.

letswastemoney 10-22-2008 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm in no hurry to bet a horse at 3-5 and will only bet the race in picks if I play, but what does this mean? Do you think another "good" horse or two in any of her races would have mattered? She has destroyed everything out there on any surface she has stepped foot on.
Well yeah. It's easy to have an off day. Ginger Punch is better than what she showed at Oaklawn. Hystericalady is a few lengths slower on synth. Who else has she beat....Model? Romance is Diane? Tough Tiz's Sis? Tough Tiz's Sis did win by a lot in her next race, but then again she could have just freaked in the slop.

letswastemoney 10-22-2008 10:02 PM
With Music Note, Carriage Trail, and Cocoa Beach in there, I get the feeling at least one of them will come up with their best race ever.

RollerDoc 10-22-2008 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
She would have smoked Big Brown.
Would Zenyatta have smoked Eight Belles? My opinion is it would have been very close.

Indian Charlie 10-22-2008 10:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Really?? Stunned?? She's won 3 of 6 since coming to the US. I think you can toss the try at Churchill since speed was golden all Derby weekend long and they crawled around the track. She certainly vindicated herself a few weeks later at Belmont, a race where she had to dig down and hang on. She lost by a pimple to Diamond Diva and was second to the boys at Woodbine. She's run well on 2 different synthetic surfaces and should get plenty of pace to run at. What am i missing? Are you sure you are thinking of the right horse?
Yeah, that's the horse all right. Her loss to Diamond Diva was one of those all time great pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory you'll ever see.

I think she's overrated, but does manage to make noise every race. I think there are some fillies in here that are much better than what she's faced sprinting before, so I just don't see her winning.

I will preface all that though and say I'm terrible with synthetic form. Also, watching synthetic races, I feel like I still cannot get a handle on what I'm seeing.

Indian Charlie 10-22-2008 10:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
Zenyatta is the Big Brown of the girls it sounds like.
Dude, you make pg1985 sound like the love child of DrugS and Julie Krone.

I'm not even sure what I mean by that, but man.

RollerDoc 10-22-2008 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Dude, you make pg1985 sound like the love child of DrugS and Julie Krone.

I'm not even sure what I mean by that, but man.
Come back when you're sober!

RollerDoc 10-22-2008 10:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
She's beat every horse she's faced and done it convincingly. She traveled across the country to run on a surface she hadn't been on before and beat Ginger Punch. I just don't see the knocks. Nowadays more crappy horses get undeserved accolades. She deserves any accolades she gets and more IMO. She's something special. I can see trying to beat a favorite, I get it. But even if one of the 3 horses you mention do throw a lifetime best, I don't think it'll be enough.
No doubt Zenyatta has a GREAT record in 2008. Do you think if Curlin gets beat, then Zenyatta wins HOY?

hi_im_god 10-22-2008 10:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
Come back when you're sober!
charlie can stop drinking. but you'll always be stupid.

10 pnt move up 10-22-2008 10:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
She's beat every horse she's faced and done it convincingly. She traveled across the country to run on a surface she hadn't been on before and beat Ginger Punch. I just don't see the knocks. Nowadays more crappy horses get undeserved accolades. She deserves any accolades she gets and more IMO. She's something special. I can see trying to beat a favorite, I get it. But even if one of the 3 horses you mention do throw a lifetime best, I don't think it'll be enough.
The only unknown in the race is if Music Note moves up on this track, if she does she might make a race of it.

RollerDoc 10-22-2008 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
charlie can stop drinking. but you'll always be stupid.
For somebody who calls himself God, I guess I can't argue against that. Whatever you say.

hi_im_god 10-22-2008 10:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
For somebody who calls himself God, I guess I can't argue against that. Whatever you say.
i was going to let this go until you gave me the "whatever".

now you have cancer. happy?

RollerDoc 10-22-2008 11:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i was going to let this go until you gave me the "whatever".

now you have cancer. happy?
What a pathetic person you are. When you lose somebody you love to cancer (in my case pancreatic which is about the worst), and watch them deteriorate,there is nothing remotely funny about that.

Coach Pants 10-22-2008 11:01 PM
Toss: Curlin
Single: Casino Drive

GPK 10-22-2008 11:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Toss: Curlin
Single: Casino Drive
:wf

cowgirlintexas 10-22-2008 11:04 PM
O.k.. I can see this thread is going downhill fast..



I'm leavin'

hi_im_god 10-22-2008 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RollerDoc
What a pathetic person you are. When you lose somebody you love to cancer (in my case pancreatic which is about the worst), and watch them deteriorate,there is nothing remotely funny about that.
charlie's father died of cirrhosis kettle.

blackthroatedwind 10-22-2008 11:07 PM
Would this be an inappropriate time to mention that my Dad died on BC day last year....from cancer?


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