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AeWingnut 10-15-2008 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Slewbopper
The Saturday card will start at 1:10 p.m. Eastern with the Marathon, followed by the Turf Sprint, 1:50; Dirt Mile, 2:30; Mile, 3:15; Juvenile, 3:55; Juvenile Turf, 4:35; Sprint, 5:15; Turf, 6:00; and Classic, 6:45. Two races, the Damascus Stakes and the Oak Tree Derby, will follow the Classic.


If the idiots that produce this circus had half a brain, they would run the nine races in 3 1/2 hours. There is less than 20 minutes of actual action in 6 hours. Ever wonder why nobody other than us watches the Breeders Cup?

so it's lke baseball

The Bid 10-15-2008 06:44 PM
Tomshito was supposed to be a monster. Ceaser come out come out wherever you are

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-15-2008 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
[/b]Yeah..I heard that. Believe me, They would do the same for FP if they could get a bar to have an EZ Bet. With Herkimer leaving, maybe we will be spared for awhile.
Maybe a EZ Bet at the Canal Street Pub? Heard the food was good there.

Handicappy 10-15-2008 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Just a guess but I'd actually think the Beyers will be much higher for the BC. The synthetics equalize all horses. So when you have low level horses only running a second slower than stakes horses it is tough to give the stakes horses a big figure and then have to give the low level horses a 90+ figure. When you have a card predominantly made up of stakes horses though then it is easier to give bigger figures since the horses on the card are all capable of running 90+ speed figures.
I very well think you'll see a 105-110. Horses have been working very fast over the surface. Curlin just scampered over the surface between races in 59. Not all synthetic surfaces are equal. The Beyers do relate to the caliber of the competition but also the speed as compared to other races over the surface. If they all run like slugs, slugs they will be but I think it will be exciting. Curlin will have to overcome the likely lack of early speed in the race. I do love Curlin in the race. Been watching him since he came to NY and looks like he is rounding out to finish a storied career with a monster performance.

sumitas 10-15-2008 07:30 PM
Right now I see no reason Curlin can't win this .

Handicappy 10-15-2008 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Yes, myself I usually prefer a win over good horses to a win over the track. But, hey, to each his ( or her ) own. Maybe beating 25K claimers, while driving, 13 days before the BC Classic has Casino Drive right where they want him.

However, if nobody knew who his dam was, and the race was oversubscribed, people would be screaming bloody murder that he was even allowed in the race. The bottom line is that he has absolutely no credentials.

It's funny, personally, I would be happy to see him do well. His connections were at Belmont for weeks and seemed really great. But, objectively this situation is a bit curious. He belongs in the BC because he's related to Rags to Riches? OK......that makes sense.
Well I like watching him because he is related to Jazil but that is another story. I agree with you but I do think he showed alot for a horse with very little experience to make a run like that in the Peter Pan. Showed alot of maturity. Do I think he has a chance in the classic? Too much would have to fall his way. The game is interesting in that how many times have we said that and the race falls their way. I have no doubt the horse will be fit. But I agree with you, his connnections were great. Very respectful even in the face of a Dutrow onslaught as I recall. And very strange training methods. They work very slow but they walk their horses forever both before and after works. How much lactic acid can a horse accumulate! I kept seeing them walking Casino Drive around Zito's barn for a couple of hours. He will add some interest. But I really don't think their will be anyone catching Curlin. And he should go out as the monster he is.

blackthroatedwind 10-15-2008 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sumitas
Right now I see no reason Curlin can't win this .

That's quite a relief.

letswastemoney 10-15-2008 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bid
Tomshito was supposed to be a monster. Ceaser come out come out wherever you are
It's silly to compare the two. Casino is a grade 2 winner...and regardless of the competition, he actually was able to beat those 3 year olds...while Tomcito raced in a couple of those races and was never able to win.

Anyway, what 3 year old race was a "key race." They all sucked. This is the weakest Classic field ever, and CD is a grade 2 winner with a beyer top of 99. It should only take about a 105-110 to win this. If he stays the same, he'll finish mid pack. If he improves, he'll be right there.

Danzig 10-15-2008 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Took almost 11,000 posts....but this is something worth reading.:tro:
i'm a late bloomer.

Danzig 10-15-2008 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Handicappy
Well I like watching him because he is related to Jazil but that is another story. I agree with you but I do think he showed alot for a horse with very little experience to make a run like that in the Peter Pan. Showed alot of maturity. Do I think he has a chance in the classic? Too much would have to fall his way. The game is interesting in that how many times have we said that and the race falls their way. I have no doubt the horse will be fit. But I agree with you, his connnections were great. Very respectful even in the face of a Dutrow onslaught as I recall. And very strange training methods. They work very slow but they walk their horses forever both before and after works. How much lactic acid can a horse accumulate! I kept seeing them walking Casino Drive around Zito's barn for a couple of hours. He will add some interest. But I really don't think their will be anyone catching Curlin. And he should go out as the monster he is.
do you take into consideration the uh..ahem, depth of the field he was facing that day? or perhaps i should say lack of depth.

10 pnt move up 10-15-2008 10:16 PM
Has anyone see how cheap these tickets are right now on Ebay. If you paid full price dont go look right now.

westcoastinvader 10-15-2008 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
Has anyone see how cheap these tickets are right now on Ebay. If you paid full price dont go look right now.
Well, if tickets are cheap, no excuse for thoroughbred enthusiasts not to try to get to Santa Anita.

It's our All Star Game.

Some years better, and some years not. But, it's only played once a year and ends up in an easily researched and perhaps remembered spot.

I've attended the Kentucky Derby, The Preakness, and The Belmont. And Saratoga and Del Mar.

And Thistledown. :-)


I'm psyched to make my first Breeders Cup.

My program and tickets will definitely end up preserved somewhere around here.


Plus, I understand they do sell beer at Santa Anita.

blackthroatedwind 10-15-2008 10:53 PM
There will be thousands of tickets basically being given away outside the track on both days.....with MANY more on Friday.

Even at Churchill there were tons of cheap tickets available outside on Saturday. Hell, we ate one or two.

GBBob 10-15-2008 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
There will be thousands of tickets basically being given away outside the track on both days.....with MANY more on Friday.

Even at Churchill there were tons of cheap tickets available outside on Saturday. Hell, we ate one or two.
I know I've posted this before, but I've been to 7 BC and NEVER paid above face value for whatever kind of seat I wanted day of.

Quiet Chris 10-16-2008 08:11 AM
This is a very interesting race. Wait A While will be very tough over that course. If Forever Together gets some pace though, I don't think there is a filly or mare in the world right now, that hasn't been retired, that can beat her. Her late kick is as good as any horse running right now. I think the heat is the only thing that can beat her.

philcski 10-16-2008 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Wasn't following the event in 2003, so I have no idea what the fields were like, where the winners came from, or how the turf course was playing. If it continues as it is presently, late runs and wide trips won't work. But I appreciate the general comments.
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Bigsmc 10-16-2008 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by philcski
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He was competing in the Vuelta a Bolivia that year. Perfecting his drafting knowledge.

VOL JACK 10-16-2008 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Forever together is a nice horse, but come on already.
FT is a real nice filly, but I prefer Mauralakana going 10 furlongs on firm turf.

Scav 10-16-2008 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kasept
2008 BREEDERS' CUP WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS
(All Eastern Time)

Championship Friday October 24

Santa Anita Allowance Race 1 2:05 p.m.
Santa Anita Allowance Race 2 2:35 p.m.
$1 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Sprint 3 3:35 p.m.
$1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf 4 4:15 p.m.
$2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (gr. I) 5 4:55 p.m.
$2 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf (gr. I) 6 5:35 p.m.
$2 million Breeders' Cup Ladies' Classic (gr. I) 7 6:15 p.m.
Las Palmas Handicap (gr. II) 8 6:55 p.m.
Santa Anita Race Allowance Race 9 7:30 p.m.
Santa Anita Race Allowance Race 10 8:05 p.m.

Championship Saturday October 25

$500,000 Breeders' Cup Marathon 1 1:10 p.m.
$1 million Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint 2 1:50 p.m.
$1 million TVG Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile 3 2:30 p.m.
$2 million Breeders' Cup Mile (gr. I) 4 3:15 p.m.
$2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile (gr. I) 5 3:55 p.m.
$1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf 6 4:35 p.m.
$2 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Sprint (gr. 1) 7 5:15 p.m.
$3 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Turf (gr. I) 8 6:00 p.m.
$5 million Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) 9 6:45 p.m.
Damascus Stakes 10 7:20 p.m.
Oak Tree Derby (gr. II) 11 7:55 p.m.
Assuming these are the six in the P6, and not the two races after the classic??

$2 million Breeders' Cup Mile (gr. I) 4 3:15 p.m.
$2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile (gr. I) 5 3:55 p.m.
$1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf 6 4:35 p.m.
$2 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Sprint (gr. 1) 7 5:15 p.m.
$3 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Turf (gr. I) 8 6:00 p.m.
$5 million Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) 9 6:45 p.m.


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