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_PAPA_ 02-28-2008 06:52 PM

Dubai Millennium Won 2 G1s and a G2 at 3.

And absolutely cruised home in all.

Thanks for that video link. I will never forget what he did to Sendawar.

Europes Champion Miler, couldnt lay a glove on him.

Who remembers that Sendawar went off the favorite?

The Bid 02-28-2008 07:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpM9F5w30g

This is what the great ones look like when they are asked to run.

Has to be on that list.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-28-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpM9F5w30g

This is what the great ones look like when they are asked to run.

Has to be on that list.

I agree.

That horse just skipped over the ground when he ran. It looked like he was running on air and never really exerting himself.

blackthroatedwind 02-28-2008 07:34 PM

Am I the only one sensing a Black Widow circling its prey?

letswastemoney 02-28-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpM9F5w30g

This is what the great ones look like when they are asked to run.

Has to be on that list.

that video made me cry

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-28-2008 07:41 PM

Greg Gilchrist has an incredible filly right now. She was my favorite HIP # from Fasig Tipton Calder sale last year. Something fairly significant showed up on her x-rays though. She had two incredible races last year, and then must have gotten injured. I hope she makes it back to the track. One to watch if she comes back. Her name is Indyanne.

A filly named High Resolve is in his barn right now as well, and she is undefeated. 5 for 5 so far. They are really spotting her right. She's pretty nice too, but I don't think she is nearly as talented as Indyanne.

The Bid 02-28-2008 07:42 PM

Makes me cry everytime I watch it

He was special, his greatness will never be realized

2yo w103-w109-w102

3yo w105-w105-w110-w107-w116-w105-w114

BC forward
OTB98-2nd97-w111-OTB87

Athletics005 02-28-2008 07:46 PM

I am probably the biggest Lost in the Fog fan in the world. He was my favorite horse and what drew me into horse racing. I was there for his debut at GGF and have been amazed ever since. He was a remarkable horse that possessed the unfair combination of talent and heart.

The competition that he faced wasn't as bad as most say. He just made them look bad.

His career was short but dynamic. The 48,000 purchase had a 109 beyer as a 2 year old, won his first 10 races, dominated the competition in the Carry Back (116 beyer) a full second faster than those running in the Smile. When his body was full of cancer, he posted a 112 beyer in winning the Aristides against Golden Shaheen winner Kelly's Landing. "He probably had it the last three or four times he ran," Gilchrist said. "There were 100 pounds of tumors in that horse when they did the autopsy on him."

In regards to his Breeders Cup loss, Aleo believes Lost In The Fog may have been exposed to something harmful at Belmont Park that ignited the cancer before he ran in the Breeders' Cup.

"I'm sure it happened back there," he said. "Two stalls from him, there was a champion filly from Canada that ran bad the same day. And she died a month before The Fog with the same cancer. There was some rumor that they sprayed for rats or something, but I know he wasn't right that day, and so did Greg. He lunged out at me, and he never did that before. He put a bruise on my chest a foot in diameter. That's one of the symptoms of a sick horse"

I am not willing to say he was one of the best 3 year olds of the past 20 years because I don't have the same historical perspective as other, but he was a remarkable horse that could possibly have been one of the all time greats if he was allowed to prove it.

For a great article: http://www.sfweekly.com/2005-10-26/n...comes-the-fog/

blackthroatedwind 02-28-2008 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Athletics005

In regards to his Breeders Cup loss, Aleo believes Lost In The Fog may have been exposed to something harmful at Belmont Park that ignited the cancer before he ran in the Breeders' Cup.

"I'm sure it happened back there," he said. "Two stalls from him, there was a champion filly from Canada that ran bad the same day. And she died a month before The Fog with the same cancer. There was some rumor that they sprayed for rats or something, but I know he wasn't right that day, and so did Greg. He lunged out at me, and he never did that before. He put a bruise on my chest a foot in diameter. That's one of the symptoms of a sick horse"


This is some pretty ridiculous and irresponsible garbage.

Cannon Shell 02-28-2008 07:51 PM

I know he just misses the year range but there were few 3 year olds that were as good as this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-MRD9QutB8

Athletics005 02-28-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
This is some pretty ridiculous and irresponsible garbage.


You have to admit thats a mighty big coincidence that a horse two stall away from him died from the same cancer that only about 3 in a 1000 horses get.

blackthroatedwind 02-28-2008 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Athletics005
You have to admit thats a mighty big coincidence that a horse two stall away from him died from the same cancer that only about 3 in a 1000 horses get.


What was the horse's name? Where is the report that backs this up? Were they the only two affected? What other possible reasons could Lost in the Fog have developed cancer?

I could go on and on. The owner gets slack because he's elderly.....but that doesn't mean it isn't BS and irresponsible. I don't believe one word of it.

Athletics005 02-28-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
What was the horse's name? Where is the report that backs this up? Were they the only two affected? What other possible reasons could Lost in the Fog have developed cancer?

I could go on and on. The owner gets slack because he's elderly.....but that doesn't mean it isn't BS and irresponsible. I don't believe one word of it.

I did some research just for the last 15 minutes. The fillys name is Knights Templar.

Athletics005 02-28-2008 08:08 PM

"one trainer i work for (danny vella) trained a filly named Knights Templar... this filly was the 2yo filly of the year in canada last year and went to the breeders cup. while stabled for the breeders cup she was right beside lost in the fog..... and she was euthanized a few weeks ago for the exact same type of cancer. "

http://equination.net/forum/viewtopi...1d865cff521363

That certainly backs Aleo up.

blackthroatedwind 02-28-2008 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Athletics005
I did some research just for the last 15 minutes. The fillys name is Knights Templar.


And what did the research tell you? Was it confirmed she died of cancer?

Athletics005 02-28-2008 08:12 PM

Heres a report. Yes she died of cancer. The same type.

Two deaths with unclear link
By JAY HOVDEY
The odds that two Thoroughbreds from opposite sides of the continent could spend less than a week stabled next to each other in unfamiliar surroundings and then be killed by the same rare equine disease less than one year later are staggering.
Lost in the Fog and Knights Templar, both born and raised in Florida, were housed in the same out-of-the-way corner of Barn 11 on the Belmont Park backstretch in the days leading up to the 2005 Breeders' Cup World Championships. Lost in the Fog was taking his sterling 10-0 record into the Breeders' Cup Sprint as a heavy favorite, while Knights Templar was going into the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies off a 13 1/4-length romp in the Mazarine Stakes at Woodbine.
They both lost their races, but that did not stop their admirers from stepping up at the polls. Lost in the Fog won the Eclipse Award as North America's best sprinter, and in Canada, Knights Templar was hailed with a Sovereign Award as champion 2-year-old filly. The future looked bright.
"We had some incredible offers for her going into the Breeders' Cup," said Danny Vella, a two-time Sovereign Award winner as Canada's leading trainer, who owned Knights Templar in a partnership group called Clover IV.
"We decided, though, that this was the type of filly we'd wanted all our lives," Vella said. "We loved her, and we wanted to race her and breed her. Who knows? She might have even gone to Lost in the Fog, since he was probably heading to stud in Kentucky."
Such dreams have disappeared now, like tears in rain. Lost in the Fog died last Sunday in his stall at the Golden Gate Fields stable of trainer Greg Gilchrist. Some six weeks earlier, on July 27, Knights Templar took her last breath at Woodlands Farm, in Hillsburgh, Ontario, about a 45-minute drive from Vella's stable at Woodbine. Both young horses shared the same grim fate, wracked with lymphatic cancer and mercifully euthanized to prevent further suffering.
It was in early May, not long after she finished second in the Star Shoot Stakes at Woodbine, that Knights Templar started showing symptoms of a virus that never seemed to let go.
"We biopsied a lot of her lymph nodes when it started to get really bad, and it was a 100 percent diagnosis," Vella said. "Steroids kept her comfortable for a period of time. But she more or less wilted away and got to a point where she was so weak we had to put her down. We had talked about chemo and all that, but for me, it was pretty tough. I'd just gone through it all with my wife before losing her last year to cancer."
Danny and Theresa Vella had been married 28 years.
"You see it happen with a person, and they can make their own decisions," Vella said. "But with a horse, you like to have a little more common sense, especially when there's really nothing you can do. I went out to Woodlands to see her fairly often. The visits were hard. But in your heart, you knew you had to do it. Being a true champion, she was happy to the end."
Knights Templar was immediately cremated. Lost in the Fog, however, underwent an autopsy on Monday at the University of California at Davis, where his malignancies were first discovered in mid-August.
"The vet said, 'Greg, you have no idea how tough this horse was,' " Gilchrist reported Tuesday evening. "Not only would a normal horse have been dead two or three months ago, it was amazing this horse kept his presence, kept eating and drinking. One of the tumors was the whole length of his back, and was starting to wind itself around his spine."
Vella contacted Gilchrist during Lost in the Fog's ordeal, if only to share what Knights Templar had been through. The idea that a horse could "catch" cancer was pretty far-fetched.
"I'm doing a bit of research into it with some veterinarians that specialize in internal medicine," Vella said. "So far, all I've heard is that there's never been any research done on that type of thing with horses. But with people and with cats I'm told there is some association with a type of virus.

SentToStud 02-28-2008 08:12 PM

I'm adding one more to my list.

If Strike the Gold, Hansel, Best Pal and Corporate Report had been born another year, Mane Minister would have won the Triple Crown in 1991.

He also would have doubled his number of lifetime wins. Mane Minister makes my list.

I'm thinking about adding Hawkster as well for his efforts in 1989 when he ran 5th in each TC race (arguably harder than Mane Minister's achievement).

philcski 02-28-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
What was the horse's name? Where is the report that backs this up? Were they the only two affected? What other possible reasons could Lost in the Fog have developed cancer?

I could go on and on. The owner gets slack because he's elderly.....but that doesn't mean it isn't BS and irresponsible. I don't believe one word of it.

He's right about the filly dying of the same lymphoma and where they were stabled... but I don't buy the reason given by Aleo. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY they would spray a potentially carcinogenic substance into the Belmont barns with hundreds of millions of horseflesh soon to be stabled there (let alone ANY horses).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athletics005
I did some research just for the last 15 minutes. The fillys name is Knights Templar.

That is the one. Trained by Mark Casse, won a couple stakes at Woodbine.


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