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CSC 06-23-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 660613)
Assuming that he didnt start taking hgh before he was a Yankee, no doubt his best years were pre HGH.

I think he was linked to a Toronto Trainer when he was with the Blue Jays, he definitely was bulkier post Boston Red Sox. The guy is also a big time azz that would rival Ben Roethlisberger.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-23-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 660966)
So do we take that to next "logical" place and discount sprinters and turf horses? Is greatness only granted to routers on real dirt?

Safely Kept was a great horse nowhere on Crists list- she should have been.

Female sprinters and female turf horses don't get their due because people don't care as much for for those divisions and because there are fewer Grade 1's out there to pile up the resume with.

randallscott35 06-23-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 661050)
Female sprinters and female turf horses don't get their due because people don't care as much for for those divisions and because there are fewer Grade 1's out there to pile up the resume with.

Which is a shame. Grade 1s are not the only determination to greatness.

Revidere 06-23-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 660386)
THanks for posting this, I tryed 2 LOL.
Im kinda suprised a throwback like Serling would say Rachel and Z would have destroyed this one... I have a list of about 15 more just in the last 15 years... A thread is coming tomorrow.


Jersey Girl toyed with Banshee Breeze

Revidere 06-23-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 660585)
I know....I was just joking around.

And he did beat Gulch and Precisionist in the Tom Fool.

Indian Charlie 06-23-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 661008)
How about Meadow Star? Honorable mention? Hard to think of a more impressive 2 yr old season than hers.

I can think of several.

CSC 06-24-2010 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 661239)
I can think of several.

Let's examine her stakes win as a 2 yr old, those among she beat were Hall of Famers Dance Smartly and Flawlessly. She was pretty prolific as a 2 yr old.

1990 G1 BREEDERS CUP JUVENILE FILLIES
1990 G3 ASTORIA STAKES
1990 G1 SPINAWAY STAKES
1990 G1 MATRON STAKES
1990 G1 FRIZETTE STAKES
1990 G2 SCHUYLERVILLE STAKES


As a 3 yr old, defeated Lite Lite, Versailles Treaty and Do it in Style, before fizzling out to end her career.

Here's one of her more memorable races The Mother Goose duel with Lite Lite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efSTvXN98A0
1991 G2 COMELY STAKES
1991 G1 MOTHER GOOSE STAKES
1991 G1 ACORN STAKES

Indian Charlie 06-24-2010 07:45 AM

Landaluce and Go for Wand come to mind.

I could make a case for Halfbridled.

Gaining Ground 06-24-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 661316)
Landaluce and Go for Wand come to mind.

I could make a case for Halfbridled.

flanders was a pretty good 2 year old. maybe not as good as landaluce or go for wand, but she did outgame serenas song while injured.


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