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Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 666227)
Do they though? If Shirreffs can call Rail Trip "the highest mountain" with a straight face, I doubt they're being honest with themselves about the slugs she's beating.

Aint no mountain higher.........on polytrack

Smooth Operator 07-08-2010 10:21 AM

If there is a God, QR will get beat next out…

Indian Charlie 07-08-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 666388)
If there is a God, QR will get beat next out…

There isn't one.

He might anyways.

Smooth Operator 07-08-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 666422)
There isn't one.

He might anyways.

Thought you were gunna kill yourself?

the_fat_man 07-08-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 666227)
Do they though? If Shirreffs can call Rail Trip "the highest mountain" with a straight face, I doubt they're being honest with themselves about the slugs she's beating.

Exactly right, not like Z has turned in performances equal to the super horse QR. I mean, QR has had a year so far that rivals that of any of the alltime greats.

Let's review the 3 races:

1) 1/3/10 GP --- Holds off the superstar You and I Forever to win the Hal's Hope, going, well, 8F.

2) 2/6/10 GP (yet again :rolleyes:) --- Runs away from the likes of Dry Martini and Delightful Kiss --- WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW -- to win the Don going 9F

3) 5/31/10 BEL 8F (yet again) --- superior performance here --- not only does he REPEL the PREMATURE MOVE of the SPRINTER Warrior's Reward but he actually has enough to easily hold off that certain Hall of Famer Musket Man (with the Dominguez last run). Moreover, Tizway run 3rd. wow, again :rolleyes:

Throw in the 2 performances last year going 10F against Summer Bird, where he mailed it in and his REFUSAL at the CLASSIC and you have a cinch Horse of the Year.

Now, notice, that DM, DK, WR, MM do, in fact, qualify as 'alltime greats'.

It'll be interesting come CLASSIC time at CD.

Coach Pants 07-08-2010 11:52 AM

So it's the "We suck less" argument.

alysheba4 07-08-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 666435)
if there is a god Rachel will trample Ryan Seacrest in the stretch

......yeah baby.

slotdirt 07-08-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 666448)
Exactly right, not like Z has turned in performances equal to the super horse QR. I mean, QR has had a year so far that rivals that of any of the alltime greats.

Let's review the 3 races:

1) 1/3/10 GP --- Holds off the superstar You and I Forever to win the Hal's Hope, going, well, 8F.

2) 2/6/10 GP (yet again :rolleyes:) --- Runs away from the likes of Dry Martini and Delightful Kiss --- WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW -- to win the Don going 9F

3) 5/31/10 BEL 8F (yet again) --- superior performance here --- not only does he REPEL the PREMATURE MOVE of the SPRINTER Warrior's Reward but he actually has enough to easily hold off that certain Hall of Famer Musket Man (with the Dominguez last run). Moreover, Tizway run 3rd. wow, again :rolleyes:

Throw in the 2 performances last year going 10F against Summer Bird, where he mailed it in and his REFUSAL at the CLASSIC and you have a cinch Horse of the Year.

Now, notice, that DM, DK, WR, MM do, in fact, qualify as 'alltime greats'.

It'll be interesting come CLASSIC time at CD.

97 percent of this post requires some kind of Fat Man glossary. Anybody got one?

Dahoss 07-08-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 666448)
Throw in the 2 performances last year going 10F against Summer Bird, where he mailed it in and his REFUSAL at the CLASSIC and you have a cinch Horse of the Year.

What does what QR did last year have to do with his races this year?

Indian Charlie 07-08-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 666447)
Thought you were gunna kill yourself?

I was on the verge, but I heard a voice telling me that Zenyatta was going to take a dump last night, so I decided I had something to live for. I found no reports of it however on ESPN, so now I'm kinda bummed.

Indian Charlie 07-08-2010 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 666515)
What does what QR did last year have to do with his races this year?

You must be new here.

Don't try logic with The Fat Man. He'll just have some veins pop in his head while he throws tomatoes at his computer screen, yelling what a retarded jockey you are, who can't even make it at a NYRA track, because poly is clearly better than anything NYRA has.

CSC 07-08-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 666435)
if there is a god Rachel will trample Ryan Seacrest in the stretch

Rachel meet Snookie, Snookie meet Rachel:




Thunder Gulch 07-08-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 666515)
What does what QR did last year have to do with his races this year?

There are a handful here who can't comprehend the constant of change.

Smooth Operator 07-08-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 666520)
I was on the verge, but I heard a voice telling me that Zenyatta was going to take a dump last night, so I decided I had something to live for. I found no reports of it however on ESPN, so now I'm kinda bummed.

Damn … was just about to start the 'Indian Charlie has died' thread

CSC 07-08-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 666546)
There are a handful here who can't comprehend the constant of change.

This is a silly argument, if you are betting real money and you are looking at the past performances, you mean to tell me it isn't useful to look at what a horse has done prior to 2010? You are correct, some cannot comprehend the constant of logic.

the_fat_man 07-08-2010 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 666586)
This is a silly argument, if you are betting real money and you are looking at the past performances, you mean to tell me it isn't useful to look at what a horse has done prior to 2010? You are correct, some cannot comprehend the constant of logic.

The horse showed last year it couldn't get 10F (on TWO occasions). This year the horse has been limited to 2 8F races and a 9F race on the speed favoring GP oval. And has yet to face a REAL horse. YET, the suggestion that last year's 10F races are relevant gets his supporters out in force. Funny how simple things seem to escape them. It'll be interesting to see how eager they all are to bet their money on him going 10F in the Classic, where he just might face some competition. Of course, this assumes he shows up for it. Not a done deal, at all. Last I heard the race was at CD not GP.

Dahoss 07-08-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 666586)
This is a silly argument, if you are betting real money and you are looking at the past performances, you mean to tell me it isn't useful to look at what a horse has done prior to 2010? You are correct, some cannot comprehend the constant of logic.

No one is talking about though. Of course when betting you would do that. But The Closeted Man was talking about what QR had done this year, then jumped to last year.

One has nothing to do with the other.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-08-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 666515)
What does what QR did last year have to do with his races this year?

You do realize you're talking to Mr. 'great horses don't lose to Lorenzonis' ?

Someone who thinks Easy Goer couldn't be great because he lost a 2yo debut sprint.

slotdirt 07-08-2010 04:30 PM

I'd love to see a list of recent horses who couldn't win going 10f as 3YO's that run away going classic distances as older horses. I would think that list would be much longer than one would think.


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