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Danzig 10-14-2008 03:22 PM
he won the first part of the race.

Danzig 10-14-2008 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo
Yeah bro Zenyatta winning Horse of the Year would be a huge plus to her stud value. Chuck mentioned in the post above that running Zenyatta in the Classic could get HER HOY..
oh, sorry sis, i was replying to what i read from you about tiago. sorry i didn't go back up far enough...:rolleyes:

brockguy 10-14-2008 05:27 PM
think this could be moved to the sticky.. lady marian is scheduled i think, but i think she'll need soft ground to be seen at her best. I think most Nayefs need a bit of cut...

sdjcom 10-14-2008 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I completely disagree. That said, my betting this year will be a lot less than usual, because of surface. But the Breeders Cup and other big days are usually prime days to find a lot of value.
Then you are one of the very few exceptions,in horseracing, betting. I track picks on this site along with Byk's for my own info to get an edge, and see what others are betting and why. I have found most do poorly on higher purse and class races. Just a fact, and have seen most take losses on the multi-race bets when all is added up over period of time. Track the selections and you'll see what i mean.

Cannon Shell 10-14-2008 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo
Shug's driven a nice Range Rover.. Had to set him back a few schenkles
Shug aint hurtin

Cannon Shell 10-14-2008 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo
Yeah bro Zenyatta winning Horse of the Year would be a huge plus to her stud value. Chuck mentioned in the post above that running Zenyatta in the Classic could get HER HOY..
They get a nice trophy and maybe a discount season to Big Brown or Kip DeVille

Cannon Shell 10-14-2008 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sdjcom
I could care less who runs and who doesn't. I will watch but will wager on Pha pk, Mnr, Haw,and all the other cheap clm and alw racing,tracks that I make money at. Betting these stakes races anytime, is a losing proposition, over the long run. No one can really throw out any horse and make a bet that the odds are in your favor by simple elimanation, and a few real contenders left at a decent price. When you bet and hit a long price you are guessing with these top horses. Every year the pay-offs are huge and the handicapping can't figure this out, if it could then they would'nt paid this well, do yourself a favor and do the doable. Watch enjoy but don't bet like the losers.
You are just so depressing...Dont you ever say anything positive? I was all set to bet the BC now you have ruined it for me.

ELA 10-14-2008 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You are just so depressing...Dont you ever say anything positive? I was all set to bet the BC now you have ruined it for me.
LOL.

sumitas 10-14-2008 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sdjcom
I could care less who runs and who doesn't. I will watch but will wager on Pha pk, Mnr, Haw,and all the other cheap clm and alw racing,tracks that I make money at. Betting these stakes races anytime, is a losing proposition, over the long run. No one can really throw out any horse and make a bet that the odds are in your favor by simple elimanation, and a few real contenders left at a decent price. When you bet and hit a long price you are guessing with these top horses. Every year the pay-offs are huge and the handicapping can't figure this out, if it could then they would'nt paid this well, do yourself a favor and do the doable. Watch enjoy but don't bet like the losers.
You must be a grunge fan .
:(

Betsy 10-14-2008 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by brockguy
think this could be moved to the sticky.. lady marian is scheduled i think, but i think she'll need soft ground to be seen at her best. I think most Nayefs need a bit of cut...
Oh, I didn't know that........hmm. Well, she's interesting in any case - thanks!

Cannon Shell 10-14-2008 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm calling bullsh.it on this one. I'd love to see this "fact" actually backed up. Am I wrong that the usual full fields don't offer great value?
Track the selections and you will see what he means...
right there with "If you build it, they wont come" (whispered to Stronach right before he tore down gulfstream)

letswastemoney 10-14-2008 09:23 PM
How can anyone say he should be 50-1?? His beyers are on par with the rest of the 3 year old crop. He's a grade 2 winner, in only his 2nd start! I think people don't like him because of all the attention he's getting.

cowgirlintexas 10-14-2008 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
How can anyone say he should be 50-1?? His beyers are on par with the rest of the 3 year old crop. He's a grade 2 winner, in only his 2nd start! I think people don't like him because of all the attention he's getting.
Sweet..more $$ in my pocket :)

blackthroatedwind 10-14-2008 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm sure it would be an interesting study, I just don't believe for one second he has done it.

I actually did a doctoral thesis on it. The results were interesting, but ultimately it came down to one thing, if you remove BBB's picks overall people displayed a fairly adequate opinion.

With him included, overall, the opinions really sucked.

Cannon Shell 10-14-2008 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I actually did a doctoral thesis on it. The results were interesting, but ultimately it came down to one thing, if you remove BBB's picks overall people displayed a fairly adequate opinion.

With him the opinions really sucked.
Thank you Doctor!

Cannon Shell 10-14-2008 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm sure it would be an interesting study, I just don't believe for one second he has done it.
:$:

blackthroatedwind 10-14-2008 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Thank you Doctor!

It actually earned me validictorian status. I, excuse me, we read one of BBB's posts as our speech.


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