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RollerDoc 12-31-2008 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
I thought you might say that..my understanding is that it involves US/North American based horses, not where they run. Curlin's race in Dubai counts as much as BB' in the US.

Anyone who knows differently, please correct me.
Very nice move. Waiting for me to take the bait I see. I hope I am right but I do not know.

GBBob 12-31-2008 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RollerDoc
Very nice move. Waiting for me to take the bait I see. I hope I am right but I do not know.
It really wasn't that intentional..

here is an easy link..just lists American Race Horse not defining where they run..again, not 100% sure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Horse_of_the_Year

GBBob 12-31-2008 03:00 PM
This may have already been posted, but certainly includes Curlin's Dubai win on his resume.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ray&id=3665217

miraja2 12-31-2008 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RollerDoc
Isn't it fair to say that Big Brown beat better horses than Curlin or Zenyatta? Here are just a few:

Colonel John
Proudinski
Cool Coal Man
Shakis
Macho Again
Visionaire
Da'Tara
Eight Belles
Denis of Cork
Tale of Ekati
Elysium Fields
Gayego
Anak Nakal
Dr. Cal
Coal Play
Hey Bern
Z Fortune
Ichabod Crane
Tomcito
Nistle's Crunch
Globalization
Silver Tree
Atoned
Crimsom Comic
Oh my god.
When you see them all together like that.....it becomes even more clear what a ridiculous collection of donkeys they really were.

King Glorious 12-31-2008 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by miraja2
Oh my god.
When you see them all together like that.....it becomes even more clear what a ridiculous collections of donkeys they really were.
Don't be condescending like I was. Just give him your horses that you think are better. That is, if such horses even exist.

miraja2 12-31-2008 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Don't be condescending like I was. Just give him your horses that you think are better. That is, if such horses even exist.
I wasn't attempting to be condescending. In fact, I have no real opinion on HOY. I think a somewhat reasonable case could probably be made for Big Brown.

I was just struck by how horrible that group of horses is/was.

RollerDoc 12-31-2008 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
It really wasn't that intentional..

here is an easy link..just lists American Race Horse not defining where they run..again, not 100% sure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Horse_of_the_Year
I couldn't tell based on that but what was really interesting after seeing the list of all the HOY winners, John Henry in 1984 was 9 years old? That is hard to imagine.

RollerDoc 12-31-2008 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by miraja2
I wasn't attempting to be condescending. In fact, I have no real opinion on HOY. I think a somewhat reasonable case could probably be made for Big Brown.

That is all i am really saying. My list would be comparable to any names that could be listed for competitors of Zenayatta and Curlin.

GBBob 12-31-2008 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RollerDoc
That is all i am really saying. My list would be comparable to any names that could be listed for competitors of Zenayatta and Curlin.
If you are trying to say he belongs on the ballot, of course. If you are trying to say he should win, I disagree.

Sincerely,
Capt. Obvious

miraja2 12-31-2008 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RollerDoc
That is all i am really saying. My list would be comparable to any names that could be listed for competitors of Zenayatta and Curlin.
I would probably put him third behind those two, but if he wins.....I sure won't care very much.

RollerDoc 12-31-2008 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
If you are trying to say he belongs on the ballot, of course. If you are trying to say he should win, I disagree.

Sincerely,
Capt. Obvious
I'm saying both, and I know he is not favored to win HOY. Personally I think he should win based on the way the year played out. In most other years, this would not even be a conversation. He would be top 3yr. old and that's it (which is a great achievement in itself).

Cannon Shell 12-31-2008 03:16 PM
Please Stop Before 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

RollerDoc 12-31-2008 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Please Stop Before 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
If that is directed at me, how about I promise to stop by 2009? Luckily since I live out west, I get a couple extra hours to post before the new year.

Indian Charlie 12-31-2008 05:33 PM
I'm not sure what's more idiotic.

RollerDoc's argument, or people arguing with him over it.

King Glorious 12-31-2008 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I'm not sure what's more idiotic.

RollerDoc's argument, or people arguing with him over it.
Easily, the later. At least, on my behalf, I realized he wasn't serious a long time ago so I stopped trying to have a serious debate with him. He had me going for a minute though.

Indian Charlie 12-31-2008 06:17 PM
My head just exploded.


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