Originally Posted by paisjpq

no offense but all you have to do is start talking about BB's "conformity" and you could be my rather tiresome neighbor

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He deserves a lot of credit for winning from the 12 hole going 9 furlongs at Gulfstream and winning the Derby from the 20 post in his 4th start. There is no disputing that. He was a very good horse. I don't know what it is you want people to say. I don't think anyone will argue he was a very good horse. He accomplished a lot in his short career and was the lone bright spot in a terrible crop of 3 year old males. I'm not even sure what fight you're fighting anymore.

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

OK then explain this:

Big Brown accomplished that in only his third and fourth races of his career and breaking from posts 12 and 20, respectively. The last horse to win the Derby with only three career starts was in 1915, and no horse had ever won the Derby from post 20. Although his speed figures regressed a bit in the Preakness, which was expected, he still won by 5 1/4 lengths and was virtually eased in the final furlong.

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Many also criticized his competition, something he had no control over. Yet, the horses he defeated did manage to come back to finish 1-3 in the Travers (gr. I), 1-3 in the Ohio Derby (gr. II), 1-2 in the Jim Dandy (gr. II), 1-3 in the Swaps Stakes (gr. II), 1-3 in the Pennsylvania Derby (gr. II), 1-3 in the Northern Dancer (gr. III), and first in King's Bishop (gr. I). And the only one to compete against older horses in a major race (Anak Nakal) finished a fast-closing second in the Meadowlands Cup (gr. II).

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

OK then can we just agree on the following?

One time, after being led out to be washed, Big Brown looked up and intently eyed a pigeon on the roof for several minutes

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Me or the writer?

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

In a head to head battle, who's head would explode first, pg1985 or RollerDoc's?

Or, as a third possibility, would all the rest of us undergo simultaneous explosive cranial decompression?

My opinion is that that argument would most likely result in Roller Doc's unrelenting illogic causing pg1985's head to explode first.

Originally Posted by Danzig

define intently. i think that's a silly remark to make-and how it indicates anything special about the horse, i don't know. he eyed a pigeon, so what. my dog eyed a squirrel, doesn't make her the next lassie.
besides, maybe it just indicates big brown is brain damaged. i can't imagine a pigeon would be interesting enough to eye for long-unless he's hovering over your newly washed car.